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It say´s 1973-74 but....??

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Zigge69, Jan 9, 2018.

  1. Zigge69

    Zigge69 Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
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    May 9, 2017
    Sweden
    IMG_1968.JPG View attachment 263471 View attachment 263475 View attachment 263476 IMG_1965.jpg IMG_1958.jpg IMG_1956.jpg IMG_1963.jpg IMG_1973.jpg IMG_1974.jpg IMG_1955.jpg IMG_1973.jpg IMG_1974.jpg View attachment 263483 I hope someone can help me with this, is this the real deal or what is it?
    The guy I got it from said that ,he himself were unsure if the guitar were a complete strat from 73-74 or if the parts came from two separate guitars, he also told me that the guy he bought it from said the pickups and pickguard came from a 69 strat, I don´t think that myself but.....and why there is no stamp or whatever on the neck that can give any clue....... View attachment 263471 View attachment 263472 View attachment 263473 View attachment 263475 View attachment 263476 IMG_1965.jpg IMG_1956.jpg that´s why I need help with this one.
     
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  2. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London
    The soldering is a real mess! Not an expert on those but the other bits youre showing look authentic.

    Have you got pics of the whole thing?
     

  3. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    That is some messy soldering. The neck and body check's out fine, the serial number is correct for a 74. I don't think the pickups are original though, they should be grey and not black and have date stamps.
     
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  4. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Antisocial Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    All the parts look pretty genuine. The neck has been redrilled, but it's not necessarily from another guitar, judging by what looks like filler in the neck pocket.:) The bridge looks like a one piece casting and the block saddles look good, the tuners are right. The pots look the right type, the pickups don't though.
     
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  5. tealsixtysix

    tealsixtysix Senior Stratmaster

    Aug 30, 2015
    Massachusetts USA
    Those aren’t 1969 (or 1973) Strat pickups. They’re either much older or much newer — bet on newer.
     
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  6. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    The pickups don't fit the bill for a 69 either, they should be grey and have date stamps also.

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  7. Zigge69

    Zigge69 Strat-Talk Member

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    May 9, 2017
    Sweden
    Just added a couple of pics of the whole guitar.
     

  8. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Antisocial Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    When did the flat pole pickups start? Was it late 1973 or 1974?
     

  9. Zigge69

    Zigge69 Strat-Talk Member

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    11
    May 9, 2017
    Sweden
    At one of the pictures (thumbnail) of the pickups you can hardly see it, but it is there, some letters...like...GN or SN, stamped on the pickup.
     
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  10. Zigge69

    Zigge69 Strat-Talk Member

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    May 9, 2017
    Sweden
    And yes, the soldering is a real mess....
     

  11. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    Around 75
     
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  12. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member

    How can you tell? I don't even see one of the neck pocket, and think I see an empty tuner screw hole towards the body on the back of the headstock.
     

  13. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Antisocial Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    The photos have been changed since I commented.
     

  14. kurher

    kurher Strat-Talk Member

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    Oct 2, 2017
    Greece
    Looks like a late 1973 or 74. Capacitor is original, neck looks genuine too. The pots (as much as I can see) and the pickup selector are much newer. Although I've seen black bottom pickups on many 73s they never have pushback wires so these might be newer Fender pickups. More close-up pictures would help.
     

  15. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 13, 2011
    Music City TN
    Wires on 1969 and 1974 pickups would be plastic insulated, not cloth.
    The Oak switch is not era correct.
     
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  16. echoes71

    echoes71 Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 15, 2013
    USA
    The pickups are 100% not original, and possibly the switch and some of the pots, the capacitor looks orig. The rest looks ok, but seeing the neck pocket and the bottom of the neck would be helpful.
     
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  17. Zigge69

    Zigge69 Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
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    May 9, 2017
    Sweden
    Picture of neckpocket added.
     

  18. Spiffums

    Spiffums Strat-Talker

    112
    Nov 2, 2015
    Tennessee
    It's so bad it makes my soldering skills look good.
     

  19. crashbelt

    crashbelt Strat-Talker

    228
    Feb 27, 2012
    England
    Here's real date stamped pups from my hardtail 74 l just got, 20171230_143909.jpg 20171230_124543.jpg which is also blond finish over ash body. Ignore the horrific electrics which I'm getting sorted out!
     

  20. bonedust

    bonedust Strat-Talk Member

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    Jan 25, 2016
    Brisbane Australia
    One pot is from 1984. It has had other tuners on it at some stage. The pickguard is not original nor are the pickups. It looks like the edges of the neck pocket have been shimmed/filled with a thin wood veneer. I have been tempted to do the same to my 74 as the is a small gap. My saddles don't have string grooves on them but two were crumbling in that spot when I got it back in 97. My serial no starts with 535...
    Looks like a fun guitar.