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Discussion in 'Home Recording Studio' started by Johnny Danger, Mar 7, 2018.
I really wish I had something I could say to make myself look like less of an idiot.
My live room rig is a Dell Vostro low end Pentium Pro running XP (maybe 2008 vintage). Installed a firewire card and a solid state drive to record to. I use 2 Audiofire 12 interfaces. I can record 24 tracks real time at 24 bit 48khz with absolutely no drop outs or problems. Because we are recording live the latency isn't an issue if it did exist. I overdub vocals and things on a newer PC and USB 2 interface that has low latency when I need to listen to the master and record additional tracks. I also mix down on the more powerful computer and use it for plug ins. My plan is to try to start mixing in Analog by going 24 tracks back to the board (just use the pc as a hard disk recorder) and use all outboard gear and then take that output back into the computer for the stereo master. I just haven't had time to route and connect the 60+ cables for the in/out/inserts.
I use a Tascam interface on my better PC and it is really hit or miss on latency. When I use midi drums into the PC for use with Addictive Drums 2 it works for a while and then suddenly glitches and gets several hundred milliseconds of latency. Impossible to play along with a track on the PC. I have fewer issues using a single mic for overdubbing vocals. I honestly had the best recording sessions with my old USB 1.0 Lexicon Omega 4 channel interface - never had latency issues. I use Sonar Platinum (and X1, X2, X3 - 32 and 64 bit) for my DAW. I have a bunch on 32 bit plugins that don't work on my newer 64bit Platinum, but it also has a 32 bit install on my pc than can use them. I have way too many choices and not enough time..........
Perhaps not so coincidentally, I’d echo almost exactly these comments. Mixcraft is a great piece of software for cheap. I also use an Asus sound card—the Xonar Essence STX. It is PCIe capable—helps to reduce latency greatly. USB generally doesn’t cut it for me. I take the line out from the sound card and connect it to a simple 4 channel mixer, a line out from my mic pre-amp to the same mixer and monitor that way via headphones while I track. I’ve got a quality dedicated mic pre, and two or three quality mics. It’s amazing what you can produce from a set-up this simple. Honestly, I wasn’t ever looking to produce studio quality stuff but I get great results for a decent price, plus I get the practice of fine tuning my recording skills.
In your position I would put up my hair in a man bun, mingle with the young cats at UNT, sneak in to the music department and record there. Probably could put a band together too.
Used RME babyface, RME has the most stable driver system in the world. You can still use their hamerfall series from the early 2000s on modern computers, that's almost 20 years of support! Unique in the field of audio interfaces. Driver support won't dissapear after a few OS upgrades...
On the cheaper side, anything USB class compliant, with a good reputation.
Great latency/monitor handling.
For the price of those things, it would have to cook me diner every night and wash the dishes after...
Yes. The M-track bundled with Ableton Live is excellent value for $£¥€...
As for your computer - make sure the RAM is at the max for your OS version, ideally put the OS on a solid state drive and use a second drive for recording to - internals are easy for most PC’s.
Maximum RAM is more often dictated by the motherboard than the OS. SSD is nice, but not strictly necessary.
I like using a sound card for the low latency as well. But I've seen a lot of USB audio interfaces on the market for doing music recording.. I've always wondered if USB had low enough latency for music recording, but from the number of USB audio interfaces available, I suppose USB might be good enough..?
Even when using a sound card's microphone interface, if I go to the Windows Sound control panel applet and enable the option to listen to the mic input, there is often a noticeable delay from when I say something to when I hear it. So I wonder how it is that music recording works well on a PC.
Not a PC person here, so didn’t realize it was the motherboard - just remember people were limited with certain versions of windows (and Mac) - but whatever the case putting as much RAM as the computer can use and you can afford is a good idea.
And yes non SSD works fine as long as they’re 7200 rpm not 5400. However I’m impatient so now I find waiting for a non-ssd computer to fire up is maddening.
Max RAM is limited by both the motherboard and the OS.
As far as 5400 vs 7200 RPM drives, the difference is negligible in 99% of applications.
When I had to boot the computer and then load up the OS from floppy disk and I had memory measured in Kilobytes, I worried about such things.
Only if you're using a 32 bit computer from around the turn of the century.
How do you figure? 64bit systems are still limited.
To how much memory are they limited?
I believe its 128GB, or there about, for the latest OS X and Win 10 versions.
Only on Windows 10 Home edition. 512GB on Pro. It starts getting very expensive after 16GB though. I know nothing about macs, except that the memory is now soldered in.
For all logical purposes, no one would need to max their RAM on a modern system. So in a way, you're right, OS RAM is (virtually) limitless, and the bottleneck is the mobo.
Mac has been soldering parts to their motherboards for a while now, and they charge a Kings ransom for upgrades that must be placed when ordering.
$400 for a 16GB RAM upgrade is beyond laughable. But thats for another thread.
My current computer didn't cost £400 when it was new. It's quite happy running on 8GB, which is it's maximum. But I don't do much recording or use many tracks or plugins.
Why are you looking at me like that?