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Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by dethknight32, Mar 2, 2017.

  1. dethknight32

    dethknight32 Strat-Talk Member

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    Hey there guys, I want to make this post to try and gain some knowledge about what model of amp to get. I currently own a Blackstar HT studio 20 tube amp($550 USD retail) and an Orange Crush 20RT($189 USD retail.) I only own one guitar which is a MIM Fender Strat with Custom '69 pickups inside. I had the Orange amp first and got the Blackstar on sale to try out a tube amp, and I noticed I legit liked the sound of the cheaper solid state Orange amp way more. I feel like the Blackstar is better only in terms of volume, otherwise that Orange crush sounds sweeter on clean, and has way more bite and sustain on dirty. Based on how much I actually enjoy the Orange amp I want to buy a bigger and better model Orange Amp and probably get rid of the Blackstar. There's a couple Orange models I've been interested in, one is an Orange Crush 60 watt 1x12 combo($499 USD,) and another is Orange Crush 120 watt 2x12 combo ($699 USD.) Both have digital reverb and effects loop one is just 2x stronger and has another speaker in it. The only thing that's really making me contemplate which one to buy is the fact that I'm mainly a home player and don't get more than 4-5 hours a day of being able to play loud, not extreme loud though. I would instantly go for the 120 watt Orange crush just because more watts and more speaker=awesome, but I just don't know if i could really drive that amp hard without pissing my neighbors off. At the same time, i also sometimes jam with my buddies and one plays drums, so I'd like to make sure whatever amp I have could hang with a drummer. I gotta shut up now, i'm here to get as much help on the issue as I can before I make a purchase. Thanks a bunch in advance guys :)
     
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    suncrush Senior Stratmaster

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    Check out the Orange Rocker 15.

    120W is going to be overkill-and-a-half. Is the Crush 20 having trouble hanging with the drummer? 20 W should be plenty to go against unamplified drums.
     
  3. dethknight32

    dethknight32 Strat-Talk Member

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    The 20 watt version can sort of hang when drums are played softer, but My buddy likes to play super fast double bass kicks and pressures my sound out hard :( I've also noticed the 20 watt version gets feedback and unwanted noise when it's cranked max and driven by my Overdrive pedals.
     
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    8T_BoCO Aspiring Stratospheric Stratitician Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Why not try an orange head you like (40-60 watts) with a 2x12 cab, or a 4x12 cab?
     
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    sumran Fan of Leo

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    I'm impressed by anyone that gets that much playing per day, regardless of volume. If that is just loud time...

    Don't know how you do it but I salute you!
     
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    dethknight32 Strat-Talk Member

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    Haha well I don't play 4-5 hours every single day I just mean I have a 4-5 hour block where I can plug in and any other time I can't. I do play about 2-3 hours daily though
     
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    jimbojo Senior Stratmaster

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    Not an expert on either of theae amps by far, but some things to consider. In general 20 watts of solid state is not as loud as 20 watts of tube amp, at least not on my experience. The other thing is that with solid state amps there is not as much of a sweet spot as tubes. What I mean is you can run that 120 watt Orange at lower volume and you'll probably be ok, on cleans especially. You won't push the speakers so you may lose a bit there but I don't think it would be much. The 120 will give you plenty of headroom for the occasional jam with a drummer. I ran an Acoustic 150 watt head into a 6x10 cab in the early 80's never had issues at any volume. With tubes its a different story balancing sweet cleans and OD, but I love my tube amps now won't go back.
     
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    Orange Rocker 32.
     
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    Orange Tiny terror and a 2x12 cab... plenty of loud for Hangin with drums and small gigs...
     
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    SonOfIAm Strat-Talker

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    Between the two you're looking at, I'd suggest the 120 watt amp. Solid state is different than tubes in that it will sound almost as good at lower volumes as cranked. I had Line6 Flextone back in the day and it performed very well at lower volumes. If you're considering the possibility of a tube amp, I can't recommend the Orange OR15 enough.
     
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    Duotone Senior Stratmaster

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    Where are you at music-wize?
    What music is supposed to come out of the speakers?

    You need to figure this out before another amp.
     
  12. Paul Strat

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    The type music you play should be a big factor in helping you get an idea of what amp to look for.
    I'd say if you play out or get to play above bedroom volume, there are a lot of tube amps that would make you smile. Hard to make recommendations without knowing what you play most though.
     
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