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Music Modernization Act signed into law

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by CigBurn, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:39 AM.

  1. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Erm.....

    Should we be happy about this? o_O
     

  2. Robins

    Robins Dr. von Loudster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 22, 2010
    Germany
    The GEMA idea - to keep the profit away from the musician and keep a big part for the "company".
    Money making ****ing ticks.
    I used a "t" at the start of the word not the usual two letters.

    All the best,
    Robin
     
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    Dadocaster Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter


  4. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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  5. Mr C

    Mr C Senior Stratmaster

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  6. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    Well, since sales have tanked its just a way for people who used to get points on sales of records ( producers, band members who didn't have a writers share etc) to make money off of streaming and other non traditional platforms.

    The record business is still trying to catch up to technology. But I think they've lost the race.
     
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  7. CigBurn

    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I'm no expert and have no dog in this hunt, so my thoughts are worth exactly zip. But I do have some thoughts and guess what? You get to hear them. :)

    I agree with the criticism I've seen of how the board for council will be set up, allowing the ten largest publishers to choose the four representatives for the entirety of writers. The writers should have a mechanism to choose who represents them on the council.

    The CLASSICS portion of the act seems to draw a lot of criticism due to the potential for uninvolved but related (familial) parties to attach themselves to royalties. But given the long popularity life some music has had in the last fifty years I think it has value. Many artists/writers etc who produced classic works of popular music are still with us. A good portion of us still enjoy music created before 1972 and many of the creators are still out there performing them. So extending the period of time where the creators can benefit financially from their work is cool by me. If I were writing such an act I would have written it to lifetime+5 years and then had works go public domain. But that's just me.

    I would also have implemented a functioning grievance process for unaffiliated artist who for various reasons have earned but not been paid royalties that does not require a team of lawyers to enforce.

    Again though, totally not an expert so feel free to treat it with the complete lack of regard the comments deserve. :)
     
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  8. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

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    Im going to play Devils advocate here and ask ....

    Does anyone actually pay for music anymore?
     
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  9. GuitarMechanic

    GuitarMechanic Most Honored Senior Member

    Doesn't seem that way does it?
     

  10. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    I do in that I pay for streaming services. I also buy a very limited number of vinyl records.

    Streaming services are dirt cheap really, you get a lot of bang for the buck. I'll happily pay a bit more if I know the money ends up where it belongs.

    I don't buy songs or records electronically, the last time I looked, a record on iTunes cost as much as a CD did during its hey day. How can that be? You cut out the cost of making, distributing and selling a physical product. Sure, Apple will want a cut but surely not that much? Somehow I also doubt that the difference ends up in the pockets of the artists.
     
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  11. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

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    Lil' Rhody
    No. It really doesnt.
    Why deal with restrictions (Hello iTunes) and other DRM crap when you can Torrent tunes?

    Im not advocating piracy, but lets face facts. The music industry has been screwing artists and consumers for decades.

    Maybe karma has caught up with them at last?
     

  12. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    Jan 22, 2016
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    I haven't illegally downloaded a single song since Spotify was introduced. I had one of the early test accounts, must have been... 2006 or so? Same goes for movies, I use both Netflix and HBO.

    I believe that in general, people want to be good and do right. If the industry can come up with ways of making media available at prices people feel are fair and can afford, I believe the majority will go that route.

    In the late 90's, a CD here cost $20 and that's not $20 in today's money.
     
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  13. fezz parka

    fezz parka Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    Its 50/50.
     

  14. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm not surprised but it's much more than I think is fair.
     
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  15. Doug B

    Doug B Strat-Talker

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    About a year ago I heard a rumour that Spotify didn't pay artists the full amount of royalties. Any truth to that ?
     

  16. Biddlin

    Biddlin Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 11, 2013
    USA
    Much ado about nothing. The act was formulated and endorsed by writers publishers and DSPs. It is an attempt to properly compensate composers and publishers dealing with the new ways music is shared. No one claims perfection, but then perfection is the mortal enemy of good.
     
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  17. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    No idea. Nothing would surpise me though. If it turns out to be true it's time to look for another streaming service.
     

  18. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Weeee doggie Strat-Talk Supporter

    yes. i actually buy cd's
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018 at 12:21 PM

  19. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    I'm sure that Spotify pay something to somebody. Who that somebody may be and what they do with the money is another kettle of fish. It's come up several times before.
     
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