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Discussion in 'Tab & Music Forum' started by davidKOS, Sep 22, 2013.

  1. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    also, if you see something like this....A5, G5, F#5, etc, it means power chord, basically. the cool thing about power chords is, since they are neither major or minor, you can play all kinds of exotic scales or whatever over them. you hear it alot in metal stuff, where guitarists are shredding all kinds of crazy stuff.
     
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  2. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    Depends on the chord progression they're being used in. You can just play the 1 and the 5 if someone else is covering the 3 or b3. :)
     
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  3. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    true. what im talkin about is like if there is only one guitarist and the bass isnt defining anything. in a lot of metal, the bass is pretty much sticking to a root note and following the bass drum, acting as sort of a percussion instrument instead of a stringed instrument.
    DD from pantera used to use all kinds of symmetrical scales in his solos alot of the time. i guess if you looked into them theorywise(new word), you could figure out exactly what he was doing.....like what 2 or 3 scales were being used in a particular run.
    but i dont think he thought of it this way, he just liked to do things that were even with the dots, lol.
     
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  4. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    FWIW, these are double stops over a circle progression. The backing is Moore's Still Got the Blues, but I played Fly Me To The Moon and Suicide is Painless over it. The DS's are in the FMTTM part.

     
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  5. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    that was really awesome man.
    i dont usually use a lot of double stops, but they had a country challenge over at tdpri....so this is me attempting to play....get this....country music, lol.
    (dont laugh too hard)
    anyway there are some double stops in this using both 3rds and sixes. (i threw in a couple blues lines....couldnt hep it)
     
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  6. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Chuck Berry and his prodigal son, Keef, too
     

  7. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    That's pure country Kelly. Well done!
     
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  8. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    well, thank you! i DID grow up in oklahoma, so i guess it runs in my veins whether i like it or not, lol.
     
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  9. Green Craig

    Green Craig Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 15, 2012
    Michigan
    (I can't see the SoundCloud clips on the mobile app)

    A couple songs I'm working on that are heavy with power chords are Cheap Trick's "Surrender," the Refreshments "Yahoos and Triangles," and the obligatory "Blitzkrieg Bop." I got looking at a bunch of Bakersfield songs from Buck and Don, and later, Dwight, and realized that those are heavy on double stops.

    This is good to hear though...I got the concepts discussed above, but never understood why they worked or what they were called.
     
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  10. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    very nice! add in Maria McKee, or Patsy Cline, or Shelby Lynne...
     
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  11. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    I do the most common double stops in this:



    Double stops, major pent, playing the changes. :)
     

  12. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Hey i just learned something!
     
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  13. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    i can't tell you exactly why but your video made this one click for me a lot better... (did nothing for my stupid indelicate fingers though... working on that... not sounding like bobby womack just yet...

     
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  14. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    Is there a name for 1 + b7? It's a dyad chord, but does it have a name?
     

  15. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    the only diads i can think of that have actual names are power chords...A5, B5, C5, etc etc. a one and a five. (or sometimes a one and a four, which is the inversion of a power chord....the 5 becomes the root with the 1 on top)
    since diads are not actually chords, then to my knowledge they dont have proper names. i guess thats why we call them double stops.
    but since its music and nothing is really set in stone, for the most part, you can call them anything you like.
    i mean, who wants to write down Cmaj (no fifth) or something like that?
     
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  16. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    Thank you my friend. I have something in my mind that's why I wanted to know if such dyads have names.
     
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  17. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
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    You know the answer. What would you call a 1 and a b3? ;)
     
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  18. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    so, are you going to tell us whats on your mind or do we have to sit here and try to guess?:rolleyes:
     
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  19. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    Minor chord. 1 + b7 could be 7th, however, in the absence of 3 I don't know if I can call it 7th.
     

  20. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
    lol. well, I want to start my own business and call it G7. Now try to figure out what type of business would it be. ;)