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My Strat from 73

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by NenoCRO, Nov 11, 2017.

  1. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    56
    12
    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia
    Hello
    I would love to know more about my guitar from 73 years.
    Wiring diagram,pops.If you know much more ....pls write some info.
    Thanks a lot
    NenoCRO
     
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  2. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    Got any photos?
     
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  3. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    56
    12
    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia

  4. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    56
    12
    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia

  5. oatsoda

    oatsoda Puck of Paradox Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    49
    Jul 10, 2011
    The Shack, Nova Scotia
    Nice!

    The color of nut brown ale.
     
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  6. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London
    Very nice!
     
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  7. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member

    That has to be about my least favorite Fender color. Terrible 70's mocha brown. More like diaper brown.

    And so many great preCBS strats got that color painted on (even with a brush). o_O

    As far as wiring schematic it wouldn't be different than a modern one, just with a 3 way switch.
     

  8. John C

    John C Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 17, 2012
    Kansas City
    Nice. It's probably a 1974 rather than a 1973 - it has flat polepiece pickups, and they could have that "tuxedo" look with the black pickguard/white covers, knobs, etc. by then. Or it could have a replacement pickguard, or replacement pickups if it really is a 1973 (Fender changed from staggered-height polepieces on the pickups to flat height polepieces in 1974). It has had some kind of string lock on the headstock at some point in time - you can see both the outline and the screw holes where it was attached right above the bullet truss rod adjuster. It looks like the outline of a Kahler string lock, but I don't see any signs of there being a flat-mount Kahler bridge on the body (look at the photos of David Gilmour's Black Strat - it had a Kahler flat-mount for a while, but was restored to a Fender tremolo to see what I'm talking about). I suppose it could have had a Kahler 2500 series fulcrum tremolo; that bridge mounted on 2 posts that would have been placed where the outer 2 screws of the Fender tremolo would mount. Of course a previous owner could have just bought the string lock and put it on the neck - since there were not any locking tuners that were direct replacements for the F-style Fender tuners until about 2 years ago (Kluson now makes them).
     
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  9. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    56
    12
    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia
    John and all of you......thanks so much.
    Strat is on my address from 78 year
    .Now, im 56 years old but when i was young i put Kahler bridge and string lock on Strat...:(
    After several years i restored original Fender tremolo.
    Yes , on headstock there screw holes and i think repair that.
    But its a very danger and im afraid that repair that on headstock.
    Pickguard is original and i dont touch and pick up too.
    Strat was bought in New Jersey , West Berlin music store in 77 or 78 years.
    Im very proud on this guitar and it is part of my youth.
    Many peoples told me that American Standard is not from 73 or 74.
    What do you think?
    Thank you very much ...on your time....sorry on my English.
    All the best from Croatia.
     
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  10. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    I like mocha brown, there are a few variations of that color from the 70s.
     

  11. simoncroft

    simoncroft Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    61
    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    Standard Strat wiring hasn't changed much over the years. Google those three words and you'll find many, many diagrams. Here's one below:

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  12. garyhoos1

    garyhoos1 Thinking about joining a pub band. Strat-Talk Supporter


  13. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    56
    12
    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia
    Thanks Simon
     
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  14. simoncroft

    simoncroft Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    61
    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    You're welcome. I've noticed I managed to pick a diagram that doesn't show the Cap value. Usually it's .022uF but I higher value will give you a darker tone.
     

  15. John C

    John C Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 17, 2012
    Kansas City
    No worries; you're English is good for a non-native-speaker. I thought maybe you had recently purchased it so I mentioned the Kahler - but you knew that since you put it on and later took it off. I wouldn't bother trying to repair the headstock either - the holes from the string lock just give it character! Plus I wouldn't want to mess up the decal or finish.

    I suppose as a matter of record the guitar wouldn't have been called "American Standard" back then - there was only 1 Stratocaster model back then (actually until 1979 - which was the year they added the 25th Anniversary model) and Fender didn't come up with the "American Standard" name until 1986 when they applied it to a "modernized" model with the 2-post tremolo, 22-fret neck, etc. Cool that you know the story of the guitar - originally purchased in New Jersey, made it to Europe where you purchased in in West Berlin in 1977 or 78. I'm 55; I wish I had bought a Strat back then but I really didn't commit to learning to play until 1979. I never got a Strat until 1998. :( On the plus side my parents indulged my desire to play by buying me a Fender Lead II for Christmas 1979.
     
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  16. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
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    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia

  17. Rastus

    Rastus Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 1, 2014
    Australia
    Yo,

    As mentioned already, there were no other Stratocaster model "names" per-se, but hard-tails, & lefties were available.

    Cool guitar too BTW ! Should you get a chance to pull the neck-off one day, you'll find a stamp on the heel-of-the-neck that will point to its birthday, & help you evaluate the rest of it, if you have doubts as to its originality.

    Dobranotz,

    Rastus
     

  18. NenoCRO

    NenoCRO Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    56
    12
    Nov 11, 2017
    Kukuljanovo/Rijeka/Croatia
    Hi John
    Thanks on your answer again.
    Ok, name of my Strat is Fender Stratocaster from 74 or some another name?
    West Berlin is small town between Philadelphia and New Jersy . My late father buy it , i dont know in 76 or 77 from his friends or in a store.....i dont know.
    I would like to thank you for your answers.
    A great relief to help, I feel it.
    Thanks a lot
    Nenad Ban
     
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  19. nutball73

    nutball73 Strat-Talker

    212
    Nov 12, 2013
    UK
    Agree with the comments above - leave the holes in the headstock - you made 'em and it adds character. The guitar isn't valuable enough to be worth "restoring" so best to leave it as it is.
     
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  20. John C

    John C Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 17, 2012
    Kansas City
    I saw you were in Europe and connect West Berlin, Germany (which was still around back then) instead of West Berlin, New Jersey. You know what happens when you assume.:oops:

    Yes, back then there was only one model; it was just called the "Stratocaster" (no "American", no "Standard", etc.) and all Fenders were made in the USA until 1982.