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need to change 42 to 46 strings , help

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by drugo, May 16, 2018 at 1:26 AM.

  1. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    im having a hard time understanding you. please post a pic of what youre talking about and I might understand.
     
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  2. Mutnemom52

    Mutnemom52 Strat-Talker

    Age:
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    Apr 3, 2018
    Kentucky
    I agree with most of the posts here,just change the strings and then,if you need to, google how to set up a strat bridge.I just go ahead and change 'em on my strats,not too much adjustment needed.
     

  3. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    do you speak Itallian? if you do, write your question down in your language. I will translate it and maybe ill understand better.
     

  4. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Wednesday
    Rome
    hi @heltershelton
    right now i can't take a picture
    but about the video


    on my guitar the second screw is higher then the others

    thank you so much sorry for my ugly english


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  5. johnnymg

    johnnymg Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 5, 2015
    Central Coast Ca
    Edit: Ok, just saw your pic above.

    You want the 4 inside screws to be slightly higher than the outer 2.

    WATCH the vid Helter posted earlier. It explains the adjustment of those screws. About minute 7:00 of the vid.

    Note: The 6 screw bridge primarily uses the two outside screws for the pivot. The inside 4 screws are just to help/guide......... the 2 outside screws are the real pivot points.
     
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  6. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    to explain this and how to fix it would be very difficult, but I will try.
    when you take the strings off, back all six bridge screws out a little.
    look from the side so you can see small movements in the bridge, then tighten the low e screw down until it begins to push the front of the bridge down, the back it off slightly until the bridge is perfectly flat again.
    do the same with the high e screw.
    now, with each middle screw, tighten them down to where they touch the bridge but do not push the front down, then back off about 1/4 to 1/2 turn. the four middle screws should be slightly higher than the two outer screws.
    thats the best I can do.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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  7. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Drugo,

    Don't overthink it.

    Coming from a 'Rose I'm sure you're used to more complicated tremolo assemblies. But the vintage 6 screw tremolo Fender uses can be as forgiving if properly setup as that 'Rose.

    You won't be able to fully slacken the strings or dive bomb but that's the trade off.

    Floyd Rose restring meme.jpg
     
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  8. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Wednesday
    Rome
    hi @@heltershelton
    i read it and i guess i have understood
    well my second screw is higher then the other middle screws , is it normal?
    like the video @ 12:50
    thanks Heltershelton , really appreicate it


    hi @johnnymg
    the setup guy setup yhr 4 inside screws higher then the outer 2 and the second (the A) i added a green arrow higher then the other 3
    just wondering if it's normal
    thanks

    :) @jaybones :)
    cool picture
    cheers
     

  9. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    can you not screw it down?
     
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  10. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Wednesday
    Rome
    hi
    yes i can screw it down , just asking if i need or have to do it
     

  11. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    the four inner screws should be slightly higher than the two outer screws.
    my ocd makes me try to make those four inner screws the same height. it would drive me crazy if one was higher than the others.
     

  12. Namelyguitar

    Namelyguitar Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 3, 2009
    Mobile Bay
    My approach would be to recommend:

    If the setup is good now, change the 6 strings while adding a touch of graphite to the nut slots. Make any small adjustments after that for string height, and bridge position relative to the body. (Check the position of the bridge at the body, and consider an adjustment to your preferred spec if needed. I'm guessing there's 3 trem springs in the cavity.)
     
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  13. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London

  14. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Wednesday
    Rome
    hi

    good advise about the graphite and yes there are 3 springs in V (but i guess the strato standard mex come with 3 springs in parallel)

    does make a difference set the 3 screws in V or parallels on strato bridge?
    thanks
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2018 at 1:42 AM

  15. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    I set mine in parallel because that way they each have equal tension.
     
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  16. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Wednesday
    Rome
    Hi @heltershelton

    may i ask you a question about fender locking tuners ?
    do they keep the tuning better then the standard fender tuners?

    thanks
     

  17. heltershelton

    heltershelton ASKED TO LEAVE THE STAGE Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    no. not if you know how to change strings properly.
    this is just my opinion.....im sure other people will disagree.
     
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  18. himijendrix

    himijendrix Senior Stratmaster

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    May 2, 2012
    Barrow Upon Soar, UK
    Agreed, the main advantage of locking tuners is that they make string changing easier and faster IMO.
     
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  19. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Captain Crapocaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I suppose it depends on the design of the locking tuner. Mine were dreadfully slow to restring.
     

  20. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Wednesday
    Rome
    hi

    i want/wish to thank all for your support and kindness
    today i had enough time to change strings (from 44-09 to 46-10 ) and it was enough to tighten the two claw screws and if i want to switch to a fixed bridge it's enough to add a spring

    thanks again
     
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