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Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by Phatfrank, Dec 2, 2016.

  1. Jonny Hotnuts

    Jonny Hotnuts Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 7, 2013
    Portland
    Someone could of used a cleaner on the guitar that reacted with the nitro paint and caused it to melt.
    -I say this because I have seen this happen.

    It could of been that SB was not the original color and someone really wanted a custom color guitar in 65. Scratching the paint in the neck pocket will tell the story.


    ~JH
     
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  2. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Strat-Talker

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    Jan 2, 2017
    France
    I'm not sure about the switch but the capacitors were different in '59. Does its have the original cap? '62 Would be a ceramic disc and '59 would be a paper phone book type
     
  3. Phatfrank

    Phatfrank Strat-Talk Member

    70
    Sep 30, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    The guitar was blue (sonic, I think, but almost looks like LPB) originally, so thats probably the reason.

    Had to google, and will have to check but actually as far as I remember it actually looks like the 59 cap...
     
  4. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London
    Great find, Congrats !!
    I've got to stop looking at this pre CBS forum, it gives me some crazy ideas...
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017
  5. Phatfrank

    Phatfrank Strat-Talk Member

    70
    Sep 30, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    Well, this is turning out to be a bit of a puzzle... Anyone?

    Cap.jpg
     
  6. sikoniko

    sikoniko Strat-O-Master

    from that angle it is tough to see, but doesn't appear to be the original switch or pots, but the cap would be right for 61 back.
     
  7. Phatfrank

    Phatfrank Strat-Talk Member

    70
    Sep 30, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    The pots are, as mentioned, from a 70's strat (switched in '76), but the switch is an original 3-way (I hope...).
     
  8. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Strat-Talker

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    You would have to black light it and confirm if the decal is original. If it is then it would have to be a '59 neck at least. I do not know of any ways to check
     
  9. Bluebird_12

    Bluebird_12 Strat-Talker

    319
    Feb 21, 2014
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    A '59 neck would have a smaller profile, especially towards the nut end.
     
  10. Phatfrank

    Phatfrank Strat-Talk Member

    70
    Sep 30, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    The seller did the blacklight / UV process with me in the room, and although it was the first time I've seen blackligting he talked me through it. We compared it to an all-original 1960 strat and a 1959 Jazzmaster, and they all looked exactly the same. This was the reason for him telling me he actually thought it was original (as mentioned, it was sold to me as a refin). But, as far as I understand, this could simply mean that the refin / new decal work was done properly. It is after all a 40-50 year old job.
     
  11. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Strat-Talker

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    The capacitor changed from brown like yours to white in '59. How did that '62 neck plate get on there? Lol
     
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  12. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Strat-Talker

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    The polarity of the pickup magnets changed in '59/'60. Any pickup winder can check that easily. If they're '50s polarity then I would assume the whole guitar is a '59
     
  13. ripgtr

    ripgtr Most Honored Senior Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    austin
    You can also check it with a compass.
    I built a guass meter for about 5 bucks, too.
     
  14. Phatfrank

    Phatfrank Strat-Talk Member

    70
    Sep 30, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    Excellent tip, will check.
     
  15. sikoniko

    sikoniko Strat-O-Master

    My 60 does not have a neck date. That is not a reliable marker for the guitar being 59.
     
  16. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Strat-Talker

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    France
    The decal with no patent numbers along with the lack of date is what started this. The '50s capacitor is another pointer. Does your '60 have patent numbers in the decal?
     
  17. sikoniko

    sikoniko Strat-O-Master


    no patent numbers.

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    I would recommend removing a layer of paint in the trem cavity. That is where my body date is.
     
  18. Phatfrank

    Phatfrank Strat-Talk Member

    70
    Sep 30, 2014
    Oslo, Norway
    I was thinking the same - the original color is visible beneath the refin'ed white, is the date over or under the original paint?
    tremCav.jpg
     
  19. Boognish

    Boognish Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 31, 2011
    Austin
    That thing is sexy!!! Congratulations!!!