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NGD: MINT 1981 Tokai Springy Sound

Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by FenderBNDR, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Thanks for posting, yours is a 3-Tone, right? Aforementioned 'color table chart' correct then! ;)
     

  2. jofish

    jofish Strat-O-Master

    572
    Aug 28, 2015
    Hull, UK
    Yep, 3-tone, the colour chart is right at least some of the time :D
     
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  3. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe
    I have a 1981 Tokai very similar to the one at the start of this thread. Also in the same mint-like condition, parts also hardly yellowed. Could you - or any other - possibly check if your 1981 Tokai has tone/volume knobs with 4 spokes inside ( see this picture what I mean http://guitarhq.com/fenddiff/repro_strat_knobs.jpg ). I am wondering about it as I found knobs without these spokes on a 1979 and a 1980 Tokai, and the same no-spokes knobs on the JV Squiers.
     

  4. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
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    No spoke? 1979/80 MIJ

    nospoke.png
     

  5. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe
    Yes, I have these on a 79 and a 1980, too. While my 81 has 4 spokes !?
     

  6. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
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    (early/first half production year, around 'mid' 1981 some changes took place)
     

  7. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe
    Hmm..

    This is my 1981, very similar to the one of this topic. It has E pickups and what looks rather like laquer than poly fiinish, what makes me think ST80. The knobs did hardly yellow and have 4 spokes...

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  8. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    @inra311 does your 1981 have;

    - 'Tokai' or 'Deluxe' stamped tuner housing?
    - 'Tokai' or 'Final Prospec' stamped saddles?
    - Hex or Phillips truss rod adjuster nut?
     

  9. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe
    - Tokai
    - Tokai
    - Phillips
     

  10. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
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    Phillips truss rod adjuster nut?
     

  11. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe

  12. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I don't understand. I've never seen a Strat with a Phillips truss rod adjuster nut
     

  13. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    You don't mean something like this, do you?

    IMG_3819.JPG
     

  14. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe
    Yes, this one. Not the hex one but the one like a vintage Fender (maybe I confused the correct English word for it...)
     

  15. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
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    I suppose you call that a perpendicularly offset dual slotted screw ?
     
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  16. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
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    Well I certainly wouldn't call that a Philips - because it isn't. You don't use a Philips screwdriver to turn it.

    But I'm not sure what the correct term is. I can't help thinking that calling it a perpendicularly offset dual slotted screw is a bit like when Winston Churchill was reprimanded in Parliament for saying that what another member had said was a lie. You're not allowed to say that. So he corrected himself & said that it was a terminological inexactitude. ;)
     
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  17. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
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    And then muttered more words that could possibly have been construed as an apology, but of course weren't. :sneaky:

    It's an improved access double slotted flat head screw and much better than anything that requires an Allen key.
     
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  18. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    @inra311, thanks for the info. So your truss rod adjuster nut is 'cross slotted' (treading on thin ice here :D ;)), which probably means mid/end 1981 production?
    I'm guessing your serial# is higher than; 1014522?

    Now if we could see some (original) post 1981 knobs? Anyone wants to make the effort to show the inside of their 1982 or latter Springy/Goldstar knobs?
     

  19. inra311

    inra311 Strat-Talker

    230
    Oct 12, 2008
    Europe