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Not cutting through live mix

Discussion in 'Bands on the Run' started by Hillsy, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. Hillsy

    Hillsy Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Jul 10, 2017
    NZ
    Hi,

    I’m using an Eric Clapton signature strat with lace sensor pick ups playing through a hot rod deluxe speaker. I can’t seem to find the right sound especially when in a live mix situation, I have issues cutting through other instruments and when I turn it up I loose the sound I want. I run through a boss blues breaker and an Ibanez tube screamer and looking for the clean over drive blues sound similar to the likes of John Mayer SRV. I usually use the neck pick up but sometimes i feel my sound gets lost and can be muffled.

    Any suggestions or eq settings would be much appreciated.
    Thanks
     

  2. sonny wolf

    sonny wolf Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    46
    Aug 7, 2009
    austin texas
    Boosting the midrange on your amp will help cut through the mix...it's especially helpful when you are blended with other other instruments and need more presence in the mix.If your tone is too scooped in the mids then you can easily get lost in the mix.

    Also where you stand in relation to your amp.If you are standing right in front of it,a lot of the projection is going right past you 20 or 30 feet away and you are feeling like you are lost in the mix but if you stand way out far from your amp while soundchecking you can determine how your sound is cutting through.When I first started jamming live I was always turning up my amp to hear better when I didn't realise I was sometimes killing the audience with volume!!I learned with time how to percieve my sound onstage and understand how it is actually sounding in front.Some players like to tilt their amp upwards towards their ears to better hear or also stack the amp on a chair.
     
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  3. Textele

    Textele Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Oct 10, 2009
    Texas
    To echo Sonny.

    It's usually not a volume issue but it might be if you're already dialed in.

    It's impossible to dial in without playing in a group. What sounds great in your bedroom will almost certainly not work in a live band (most of the time).

    The mids and presence on your amp is where your cut lies.

    Guitar is a mid-range instrument.

    You have to make sure you are not competing with the other frequencies going on in the band.

    Find your sonic area and slide it right in the mix. Too much mids can make you sound harsh, even in the mix. It's a fine line dialing in your cut.

    Best of luck to you!
     
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  4. Dadocaster

    Dadocaster Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    I have to tilt or elevate my amp to be able to hear myself. Sonny's advice is very good.
     
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  5. mad axe man

    mad axe man Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 23, 2016
    ontario canada
    what amp or cabinet are you using...
     

  6. Hillsy

    Hillsy Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Jul 10, 2017
    NZ
    Thanks for your comments.
     
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  7. Hillsy

    Hillsy Strat-Talk Member

    17
    Jul 10, 2017
    NZ
    Fender Hot rod deluxe 40w,
     

  8. CGHguitars

    CGHguitars Strat-Talker

    499
    Sep 8, 2015
    Eden Prairie
    A couple of things I learned...
    Be careful with reverb when you're playing with a full band, unless your solo is way out front in the mix already. It can massively muddy up your sound when you're trying to stand out.

    On rhythm parts, try your middle pickup instead of the neck. Actually switch to it right in the middle of a song. You will be really surprised...

    Be careful with front-end gain from pedals or your amp. Try to leverage the power section of your amp more by bringing the gain gown and turning the master or main volume up. Tube amps live in this space....

    good luck!!
     
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  9. errikwong

    errikwong Strat-Talker

    Age:
    30
    123
    Mar 11, 2018
    Singapore
    Try to tilt back your combo amp, or elevate it such that it is closer to your head.

    Maybe share with us your current settings, but I would hazard a guess you might want to cut back the bass some and add a little more mids.

    Alternatively, and this is the last resort, see if you can add an EQ pedal into the effects loop and try to boost individual frequencies one by one to see which helps you poke through better. This should only be done once you have tried out / followed the previous recommendations by the respective forum members here.
     
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