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One or two reasons why you shouldn’t snub your nose at MIJ fenders

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  1. space

    space Strat-Talker

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    Ill take a Datsun :D
     
  2. rafasounds

    rafasounds Senior Stratmaster

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    With what I paid for my '89 mij st57, I could have chosen one among a hundred used american standards and I would have even some money left. I know why I chose the mij.
     
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    guitarmikey Strat-O-Master

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    I would say: Great Quality Guitars! I know every Japanese worker guarantees for the objects that leaves its own hands. They don't have another person to double check the quality of the products. Enough for me to trust their products. After getting my '86 Contemporary Strat, was really stunned! Bought a newer Tele, upgraded the pots, switch and pups (to '64 Pure Vintage) and now is a guitar that really matters!
    Here my MIJ pair...
     

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    lonegroover Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm a fan of MIJ Fenders, I've had a few US Strats now and none of them has been as good as my '82 Squier Series, though my Dan Smith ran it close.

    About thirty years ago when I worked for ICI I attended a 'Total Quality' course and the trainer told us the following anecdote:

    Some time in the early '80s, a US company ordered 10,000 machine parts from a Japanese manufacturer, and specified a defect rate of 0.02%. The parts arrived with a note from the Japanese saying that they had no idea why the company wanted 20 defective parts, but they had been wrapped separately.
     
  5. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    That reminds me of the story back in the 70s, of a bike racing team that managed to get hold of a rival team's worn out gearbox. They asked if the Japanese manufacturer could build them one. It duly arrived, a brand new, worn out gearbox.
     
  6. T Guitar Floyd

    T Guitar Floyd Senior Stratmaster

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    I know, right? I think the "snub your nose" part was a form of temptation.
     
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    I took business in college and one of the case studies was about the communications problems between American auto manufacturers and Japanese suppliers. I think it was when Chrysler/Dodge was having Mitsubishi supply engines. Chrysler requested an order of engines with a defect ratio of some small percentage so Mitsubishi sent them two shipments. One with the engines that worked and the other with the small percentage of engines with defects.
     
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    Those are from my favourite era of Ibanez guitars. I’ve only got two but they are amazing guitars.

    My AS100, bought brand new in October 1981 (it’s got a July 1981 date code). The only change I’ve made aside from the fibre washer at the output Jack and a recent fret level, is a set of Phat Cat P90’s and the 50’s Gibson tone circuit mod:

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    My 1981 AR100 that I bought about 10 years ago, well used but still plays like butter:

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    I’ve since changed the pickups to a set of Donlis double cream Alnico 2 humbuckers to better match the colour of the guitar. They also sound much better than the OEM Super 58 neck and aftermarket DiMarzio Super Distortion Bridge the guitar arrived with:

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  9. space

    space Strat-Talker

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    agree
    some people love the s58's
    Never could bond with them
    I had an as100 just like that
    My semi's now are the SA100, 2629, AM75
     
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    America? Europe? Asia?

    Who cares where it's made. It's how it's made that counts. In my opinion the Japanese are better than most at manufacturing.

    My car. MIJ 1991 and I absolutely love it...

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    My guitar. CIJ 2005 and I absolutely love it...

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  11. knh555

    knh555 Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm still confused where all the MIJ snubbing is supposed to be.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    It's certainly nothing like it was ten or fifteen years ago.
     
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    And the cars in question were probably built in USA.
     
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    That's what they are supposed to do?


    So? Who's ultimately responsible? The process as a whole passed Japanese inspection. Period.
    Sorry, can't dodge that.
     
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    Cerb Most Honored Senior Member

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    Yes, you're right. The ultimate responsibility is with the company. I'm not entirely sure what it has to do with guitar manufacturing or the original post. The two products in question are very different in every respect and most of the parts that make up the car are beyond the control of individual workers, be they Japanese, Mexican or American.
     
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    I don't think there ever was any on here, in fact quite the opposite - many ascribe almost magical properties to Japanese made stuff nowadays.
     
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    Similar with Toyota recently.

    In fact the cars affected had been recalled twice before for other reasons.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45756676
     
  20. montemerrick

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    an irrelevant and/or false equivalency that seems axe grindy. try again.
     
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