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Opinion on decking trem using 3 springs?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Laurence21, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. Laurence21

    Laurence21 Strat-Talk Member

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    Anyone else currently using this set-up? I just did it since I didn't have extra springs and it seems fine. I only adjusted the claw screws tighter and the string action feels fine using ernie ball 10s. It seems like the main downsides can be the springs wearing out due to less support, but what other differences could I expect with 3 vs 4 or 5 springs?

    Here are pics https://imgur.com/a/n6dcxFQ
     
  2. Guitarmageddon

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    Do you mean a decked setup? If so.....

    Watch the bridge plate when bending strings....does it lift at all? I've never been able to deck with 10's and 3 springs.....

    If it doesn't lift you're fine....that is if you want it decked....

    EDIT - saw your pics...your bridge plate tilts backwards...the 6 mounting screws need to be tightened until the bridge is flush against the body....right now the front is higher than the back
     
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  3. Yves

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    Got two strats set-up with floating bridge. One with 11s, the other with 10s.
    Both with 3 springs only.
    They both play and sound Great.
     
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    Laurence21 Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks, I thought it might of been uneven looking. Just screwed them tighter. Didn't think they'd go tighter from the looks of it, but they did and now it looks flush.
     
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    I do on mine and it’s perfect. No issues.
     
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    I use 3 springs, decked, but with 9s.
     
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    If you have trouble during bends, try mounting the springs at angles. Keep the center spring in place and move one end of each of the outer springs to the far edges of the tremelo block.

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    Or you can put a block of scrap wood behind the tremelo and have done with it . . .

    [​IMG]
     
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    Your bridge looks fine to me. You screw the bridge down without any springs on, to make sure it doesn't tilt up at the back, regardless of whether you float it or not later. Then you tighten the claw springs to taste, the back of the bridge will finish up where it needs to be.
    Tightening the mounting screws too much can damage the body, as there is a bevel under the front edge.
     
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    Both of my Strats are decked with 10s and only 3 springs. It works fine.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    This one has been fine decked with 3 springs for the last 22 years.

    decked.jpg
     
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    I used to use all 5 springs on a 1970 Stratocaster, but the downside is that it took a lot more force to deflect the tremelo arm. The result: an uneven poorly controlled up-and-down motion. This one has a 6 point bridge.

    I removed 2 0f the springs and haven't looked back. The next Strat I bought, a 1990 Strat Ultra, came with three springs new from the factory. This one has a 2 point bridge. Both Strats have floating bridges.
     
  13. Laurence21

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    Do you use .010 gauge strings on your guitar?
     
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    I've used everything on my guitar, from 12s to 8s.
     
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    Yes 10’s
     
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    Laurence, how do you deal with those adjustment screws like that? Those things would shred my right hand.
     
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    The 2 adjustment screws where the springs are to adjust the bridge height (claw screws)? Those are a pain to adjust and I was nervous to strip a screw since they require a good amount of tension and my screwdriver was an awkward size and I had to hold it at an angle to avoid scratching the guitar
     
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    Glad I found this. Been thinking about doing the same, but didn't want to use 5 springs (just looks ugly to me).
     
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    I promise you, the guitar does not care how many springs you use....it either works or it doesn't.
     
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    I just saw an article ( somewhere ) in the past week regarding decking a Strat's block.
    I will see if I can find it again ( it's probably booked on my iPAD and Mrs TD is using it right now ) but the gist was to use "RAW VINTAGE" tremolo springs.

    They strongly suggested using a set of 5 as they have somewhat less tension ( pull ) than regular Fender springs and this allows the block to seat BUT allows the use of the Trem arm as well. Supposed to provide tuning stability and better "Tone".
    We'll see.

    I had planned to do this on my 2004 MIA but just had not gotten "A Round TUIT".

    http://rawvintage.com/eng/item_springs.php

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008J7WS88/?tag=strattalk05-20

    http://www.tdpri.com/threads/tremol...raw-vintage-vs-stock-chrome-black-etc.800519/

    Here is the YouTube from Texas Blues Alley
     
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