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opinions on speaker and tube upgrade

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by heltershelton, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    ive done a lot of research on both speakers and tubes and i think im about to order both for my ac4c112.
    i decided to go with the celestion 25 watt greenback, mullard preamp tubes, and a electroharmonix power tube.
    i was able to compare all kinds of preamp tubes and the mullards seemed to be what i need for that amp, as im gonna be cranking it.
    and thoughts or opinions?
     
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  2. JustABluesGuy

    JustABluesGuy Strat-O-Master

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    I'm guessing it should sound pretty sweet, at least I hope so! Let us know!
     
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  3. Raimonds

    Raimonds Strat-O-Master

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    speaker will have a lot more influence on sound, tubes - not so much. When I got my amp I bought new tubes, because all_stock_tubes_are_meh, swapped number of tubes and nothing, I couldnt detect difference. Speaker change gave me immediate result, but that was not something I liked so I went back to all stock. YMMV, IMO, IMHO, RTFM, ETC.
     

  4. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    well, its too late now......ordered the stuff. i think ill make a comparison video....but my ignorant ass will have to make 2, because i dont know how to add one to the other.
     

  5. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    The EU
    I know how! If you want, you can send me the files and I'll cut them into a nice side-by-side video.
     

  6. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    really? awesome. but...ummm....im not sure even how to send files. thats how stupid i am. when it comes to that kinda stuff.
     

  7. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    The EU
    wetransfer works - up to 2GB per transfer. Dropbox will do the job, too, but with a bit more hassle than just clicking 'send'.
     
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  8. Raimonds

    Raimonds Strat-O-Master

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    Dont worry, look from positive side: you'll have spare set of tubes anyway :)
     

  9. Ebidis

    Ebidis Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    When you get them, swap the tubes before the speaker, because I'm interested to know how much if any difference it makes.
     

  10. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    just cuz you said that...im gonna swap the speaker before the tubes....na, not really. im of the opinion thT THE TUBES DONT MATTER SO MUCH AS THE SPEAKER. sorry...accidentally hit caps lok
     

  11. Kstu

    Kstu Strat-Talk Member

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    Did similar with my ac10. Put tung sol and jj with greenback. I llove it. The jj's crapped out on me after a few months so I had to put back the tubes it came with until I can replace. I swear that speakers sounds better every day. Hope you enjoy!
     
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  12. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    I got all jj's in my 30, but im gonna be crankin the 4, so immo put mullards in it
     
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  13. rolandson

    rolandson Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 13, 2015
    Cascadia
    If it's NOS you're talking about, then I would expect that you'll hear some distinct difference. But the new stuff labeled Electro Harmonix, Mullard, Tung-Sol... all made by the same guy in the same factory, just different printing on them.

    If this is the case, I think that in this circumstance that the speaker will made the noticeable difference.
    (ETA: that should read make but I'm lazy and didn't check my work. Used to get in trouble in school for that. Probably should have paid more attention.)
     
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  14. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Thread derailer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    Tucson

    Clue me in...how can you compare tubes with out a supply of them?
     

  15. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Thread derailer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    Tucson

    What speaker does it have now? The stock one?
     

  16. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida

  17. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Thread derailer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    Tucson

    Ha! I was just read another thread about them the other day. Which camp do you fall in...

    You like the speaker to break up and give some distortion from it/them.


    You like the speaker to be over rated so it's as clean as a whistle, so you get the unadulterated, relatively pure picture of what the amp/ effects are doing.
     

  18. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    i dont know, and i dont care. i will be drinkng lots of beer, so it really wont matter. i was bored. oh...and a had some money, so.....
     

  19. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    i prolly wont hear a difference.....if i do, ill need to smoke something else.
    but i will definately do a comparison video or two....
     
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  20. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy Thread derailer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    Tucson
    but what if you unlock the secret to tonal nirvana?