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Discussion in 'Pickup Forum' started by thomquietwolf, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    76
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    No matter how rudimentary the P90 spec is...
    Is or can it be interpreted by the winder
    For
    Different result...
    Or
    Will it always come out the sorta same...
    Un-Like the RWRP stuff with singles...
    Magnets, wire, potting, D-or-S winder...
     

  2. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    61
    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    They're normally sold as a set of two specifically for neck and bridge positions, so one assumes some variation can be obtained my the number of winds, magnet strength etc.
     

  3. oatsoda

    oatsoda Puck of Paradox Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    50
    Jul 10, 2011
    The Shack, Nova Scotia
    Must not all be the same, as the ones that come on modern player Fenders are poo.
     

  4. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Victoria TX
    I have underwound P90s in my ES 330
     

  5. HankPym

    HankPym Strat-Talk Member

    85
    Sep 11, 2017
    USA
    I've never heard a bad P90. From cheap ones on some Epiphones to my Gibsons, even the ones in a Squier VM tele I used to own! I think the design of a P90 is hard to mess up.
     
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  6. Antigua

    Antigua Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 28, 2014
    in between
    They're wound to many different inductances, but in general, to a much higher inductance than Fender pickups, and even typical "P.A.F."s. Since they've always been "hot" by the standards of most pickups, people don't really think of them in those terms, they use words like "warm" and "growl" instead.

    The differences between AlNiCo 2 and 5 magnets in a P-90, or a plastic cover versus metal dog ears, is similar to the same differences you'd get with a P.A.F. type pickup.
     

  7. albala

    albala Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 10, 2012
    stamford, CT
    I have a set of 60's P90s and a set of 90's Duncans and the Duncans make the 60s sound like they're asleep
     
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  8. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    76
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Poo...
    As in donkey dung?
     
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  9. navigate40

    navigate40 Strat-Talker

    Age:
    62
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    Jan 2, 2017
    SE FL
    I tried several and found that a set of Lindy Fralin's was 'it' for me.
     

  10. Cold Shot

    Cold Shot Strat-Talker

    Age:
    26
    280
    Dec 18, 2015
    Atlanta, GA
    The P90s in my Epiphone LP Special are pretty gnarly, but I'm not a P90 expert. They may sound like dung, but as a P90 n00b, I dig them.
     
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  11. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    My two 'lower output' P90 sets (that I switched several times in the same guitar) seem to sound somewhat the same at lower (bedroom) volume, at higher ('gig level') volumes they're two different beasts.
     

  12. Bodean

    Bodean I'm So Dope I'm Illegal in 55 States Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Aug 23, 2014
    South Carolina
    What about tapped P90's?
     

  13. LOSTVENTURE

    LOSTVENTURE Strat-Talker

    439
    Jun 15, 2007
    CHARLOTTE, NC
    I have the tapped P90's in my 2011 Traditional. But, I only tapped them once just to see what they sounded like. As much as I love that guitar and those pick-ups, the tap was not particularly useful.
    Don
     

  14. StratSounds

    StratSounds Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 10, 2016
    Salt Lake City
    Agreed. I grabbed above said guitar a year ago just to try out P90's and they are indeed gnarly. I like em a lot.

    As to OP's question, they're wound like all other pickups right and they're single coils? That would allow variability, over wound, under wound, etc, like any other.
     

  15. archetype

    archetype Strat-Talker

    124
    Nov 26, 2016
    Williamsville NY
    They come in two categories, basically. 1. Ones that tend to replicate the original bitey, growly sound. 2. Ones that tend to emphasize clarity.

    Most are in category 1. and given the simplicity of the P-90 it's actually hard to find one that sounds bad, no matter how cheap it is. The major winders also produce category 2. pups.
     

  16. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Victoria TX
    I took my ES 330 with underwound P90s and my ES 335 with 57s to my guitar lesson today and we handed them back and forth and played them the whole hour.

    There was no comparison to the tone. The P90s have such a pure, bell-like tone. The 57s sounded thinner, and didn't have that bell tone and were more biting, but not harsh.

    Lots of variables but the tone as far as playing lead was dramatically better with the P90s.
     
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  17. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    61
    May 30, 2013
    SE England
    As in: "I opened up the pick-ups and reduced the number of winds by hand?" It is possible to do that, and I've come across a few Rickenbacker owners who have done it to get the modern pick-ups closer to the earlier 'Toaster' ones from the 1960s. It's a strategy for the brave though. Or did you buy them that way? Either way, I agree that less winds is often part of what makes many old pickups sound the way they do.

    Oh yes! P90s rock when you wind up the gain...

    ...But also retain a lot of definition

    In case you were wondering, I like 'em. :D
     
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  18. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Victoria TX
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018
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  19. Textele

    Textele Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Oct 10, 2009
    Texas
    I love P90's.

    All of them.

    I just can't have a monogamous relationship with them.
     
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  20. Lonn

    Lonn Administrator Staff Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I'm considering grabbing a used Epi ES339 P90 Pro tomorrow. Played it last week at GC and really liked it. Called them tonight and it's still there.
     
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