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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by amstratnut, Jul 26, 2018.

  1. Cold Shot

    Cold Shot Strat-Talker

    Dec 18, 2015
    Atlanta, GA
    In 2009, I was staying with a friend of mine in Clinton, Iowa. I was walking down a flight of stairs and for reasons I'll never understand, my 2nd toe from the big one on my left foot got rolled underneath my foot and I stepped on it. The pain was excruciating. I didn't go to a doctor, but I'm certain it broke. How am I certain?

    I heard it. Sounded like one of those snappers you throw.
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  2. heltershelton

    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    im with ya there bro.
    skydiving is something ive never had the desire to do.
    bungee jumping either.
  3. strat_strummer

    strat_strummer Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 17, 2017
    In the shop...
    I'm usually good for at least two ankle twist's a year. Get better soon.
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  4. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    The plane didn’t fall at all. I did!
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  5. ocean

    ocean Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 14, 2015
    In a house
    I Have too many stories about pain.
    Hope you recover well
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  6. LPBlue

    LPBlue "That Guy", again...dammit! Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jul 19, 2012
    Canada, near the other end
    Pain? Yeah, I am presently enjoying a recurrence from an injury in 04. We had sold the Toronto house and moved north with all of our worldly stuff that had not already been there for the last five years. I had a 5 ton truck with a hydraulic gate (the rental company wouldn't give me the truck without "XX" license but I have "XXX" license so all good but paperwork does waste time) and my last stop was at my parent's home to pick up my dad's heavy woodworking machines.

    Loaded and on the road, everything was great until entering Orangeville Ontario, I hit a bump on the northbound downhill and immediately felt a searing, dare I say blinding pain in my neck/shoulder for a few seconds and it was all I could do to keep the truck straight in my lane. The pain went away for years until a few nights ago...oh the cosmic comedy:sneaky:
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  7. BallisticSquid

    BallisticSquid Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 12, 2016
    ...says the guy that jumped off a 3 story building with the idea of breaking his fall by grabbing a tree branch! :whistling:


    Heights ain't my thing either. Skydiving bungeejumping...that'll be a NOPE!!
  8. heltershelton

    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    well, we are all a bit hypocritical.
    and yeah, im scared of heights too.
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  9. Barb

    Barb Most Honored Senior Member

    Jun 24, 2015
    South Carolina
    Seems we all have something. My recurring pain is in my hip. I fell on a concrete driveway four plus years ago. Several specialists later it was found to be bursitis. It's been injected and I did therapy a couple times but it still hurts. A few nights ago I was sitting with my foot and leg under me (bad habit) and went to stand up and that foot was dead. I twisted my ankle and fell against my coffee table. Skin tear and bruises and wrist twisting. I'm fine other than a bandaid. Nothing is broken, I have good bones I have been told. Good thing.
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  10. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Lewisville, TX
    I have been in excruciating pain for most of the last 6 years or so thanks to a hip injury.

    Opioid free.
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  11. rolandson

    rolandson Most Honored Senior Member

    Fortunately there's a pill / i.v. for that.
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  12. Groovey

    Groovey Most Honored Senior Member

    Nov 17, 2016
    NC. USA
    Ice is totally your best friend.
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  13. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sprains hurt worse than breaks I've heard.

    Never broken a bone, except my nose (several times), facial bones, eye orbit and skull (at least 3 times, that I know of).

    My most painful injury had to be when I was 3 years old. We were camping here, before we owned property, and had been swimming before sitting down to lunch- pie iron pizzas.

    The damp beach towels were hung on the line to dry, and my older brother and I were playing "car wash"- running through the towels.

    Either he or I changed directions because I came through the towel he was about to run through. Bounced off him (might have thrown his shoulder into me or shoved me- he was that kind of older brother), and I carrened out of control over to the fire ring and flopped down on it.

    Stopped my face from going in with my hands, which HURT! I was too small to get my feet under me and I looked over at my mother (wearing a red tank top, blue pipping with anchors on them, matching red shorts with blue pipping with anchors- dad wearing a light blue button up short sleeve shirt and Bermuda shorts oblivious to my screaming. Mom is trying to get up from the picnic table but has to get her legs free. Won't get to me in time, the fire ring is burning my torso where I'm balancing on it and face is starring to blister. So I had to push myself away. Shoved the palms of both hands into the bed of HOT coals).

    My mom grabbed me as I was coming off. Dumped out this green Tupperware container we kept a head of lettuce in and filled it with cold water from the cooler (always had a block of ice in this old red metal Coleman cooler with a drain on the bottom).

    I was screaming and crying not so much from the pain (when I'd pushed myself off I burned the palms of my hands third degree- no nerve endings left) but from the shock of it all.

    We took me to the Town Hall where the doctor was having a going away party- he was flying his twin engine plane down to the Caribbean for a month of volunteer work at a free clinic.

    His office was in the basement, and he performed first aid, and cut away some of the charred flesh that could have gotten infected. Applied some antibiotics, dressed them and gave me some cough syrup with codeine for pain- I was too young for anything stronger. Wrote a note to the doctors who would be treating me.

    Family decided we'd break camp and go home, so we did that pretty quickly. Had everything loaded up and drove to the ferry dock to see the last boat of the day literally clearing the end of the dock.

    Now my parents had to make a decision- have me flown off the island and taken 150 miles south to where we were living or stay overnight and get the first boat.

    They decided on the first boat.

    When we got to where we were living my mom took me to the hospital in that city. The doctor (probably fresh out of med school) read the note, and said "Bring him back in for a dressing change." Didn't believe a country doctor would diagnose and treat a serious injury, like third degree burns that way. Never bothered to unwrap the bandages.

    The next day there were red streaks going up my forearms, and we went back. Same doctor unwrapped the dressings and said "Oh, God! I didn't know it was this bad! Infection has set in, we'll have to amputate!"

    I remember thinking "How am I going to do things without my hands? I just learned how to tie my shoes…"

    My mom said something like "no you're not" and picked me up. Pulled me out of their arms, and ran out of the ER dodging other nurses and security like a running back.

    Got into our wagon ('68 Ford Country Squire with a 390 V8) and peeled out of that parking lot. Drove immediately to nearby Dayton, Ohio (we lived in Springfield) to Children's Medical Center- which luckily had a cutting-edge burn unit.

    When they saw me in their ER they were much more used to dealing with scared children. But when they started treating my hands, debreeding dead tissue, which pulls up the living underneath and HURTS LIKE NO PAIN EVER!!!

    I yelled for my mother, "Goddamnit mommy, get in here!!!!" Pretty funny I'd say.

    And from there I went to their burn unit. Spent several weeks there, having my burns debreeded every 8 hours. Terrible pain each time, always preceded with soaking them in betadine (basically iodine).

    For a long time that smell would trigger a fight or flight reaction. Made things very interesting when I was working with iodaphor (iodine phosphoric acid mixture) sanitizing vessels for brewing and wine making.
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  14. rolandson

    rolandson Most Honored Senior Member

    if you think I 'like' that, you are nuts.

    mostly because i did something similar at close to the same age. Fortunately, my father was tangentially in medicine (orthodontics) and a former Navy Corpsman circa WW2. He knew how to treat serious burns. and i wasn't more that 20 minutes from a medical center.

    there is nothing about burns to like.
  15. Sarnodude

    Sarnodude Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 26, 2015
    I once twisted my right ankle and it was the worst pain ever. Beware of stairs, those damn things are plotting to kill us.
  16. rolandson

    rolandson Most Honored Senior Member

    I have always wanted to do this. and i always put if off. when i became a father i put the desire away until my kids had grown.

    Now that they are, one of my knees is so effed up that I could never handle even a tandem jump. but I still delight in flying and falling dreams.

    As for pain. I'm a lifetime subscriber.

    Not by choice. A crappy surgeon made hash of one leg during knee replacement surgery, such that even with revision (replaced the replacement) I am never going to walk unassisted again. And I am never going to be without pain.

    What's really cool is about 3 or 4 times a year I'll move in a manner that the bone doesn't care for. I'll hear a high frequency "ping" in my inner ear. That's the bone splitting. about 5 minute later I'll be on crutches. effectively, it's a broken leg. i stay on crutches for about five weeks and then I'm back to a cane.

    I've begged for amputation. But that isn't going to happen in the states. I'd have to go to Thailand or Mexico to do it. But the whole idea is to get a prosthetic so I can run again. Dying kinda gets in the way of that and I'm not convinced that the success rate for this sort of medical tourism is all that great.

    Fortunately I am treated by a physician who believes that pain is not in the patient's best interest.
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  17. Omar

    Omar Most Inquisitive Junior Jazzer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 9, 2017
    Marbella, Spain
  18. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
  19. mabley123

    mabley123 Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 21, 2010
    Sprain can be as painful, and as bad as many breaks, except a compound.

    A sprain can mean ripping the tendons/ligaments away from/off of the bone, and is best put in a soft cast, and weight off of it. And RICE.

    Naproxen after 4 days. 750mg 2x day for 10 days. Ice 20 minutes. Off 40 minutes. Repeat 24 hours a dayo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O

    You can even soak the ankle in Ice Water, which is even better.:eek::eek::eek::eek::whistling::whistling::whistling:. 20 minutes. Talk about hurting like a MoFo. First 5 minutes is excruciating.

    I remember playing B/Ball in the alley, and the rim ect was right by the drain/curb, and I went up for a rebound, and came down on the curb. EEEEEEEWWWWWWW.!!!!!

    I crawled 200 feet to the house,,,,, and tried to put it in ice water, and there was no way. Dying would have felt better. Ive got several sprained ankle memories as I also sued to do a lot of cross country running, but none of those were like the 1 in the alley.

    The worst 1 I was running around the local park, which is 1.20 miles around, and It had been snowing, and there was ice on the sidewalk.

    On the opposite end of the park from my house, I hit ice, twisted my ankle, and again, had a religious experience. I believe I may have mentioned god, a time or 2. And something about female dogs and her male puppies.:oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

    But I had to crawl home 3/4 mile on the ice and snow, 15 degrees, not to mention my ankle.

    I couldn't run for 2 months. I was also in really good shape, and had been running 60 miles a week for 9 months, and then 2 months of no running. Barely walking, let alone running. Used crutches for at least 2 weeks. I did lift weights/Pullups/Dips.

    Ive also had shoulder decompression/acromioplasty, Radial, Carpal release, Cubital nerve transposition, Fasciotomy on both shins. Lateral Meniscus surgery both knees, Ilioingunal nerve entrapment, and haven't taken 1 pain pill.

    The sprained ankle really, really hurt.

    In reality the sprained ankle hurt more than both knee surgeries, and shin fasciotomies, and the carpal/radial release. Though its taken longer to get over the carpal release.

    It took 1 year of rehab to get 100% of the shoulder back.

    Take my advice with several grains of salt, especially if on other medications, as its not good to recommend stuff if you don't knw what the persons potential medical program is.
    Im not a Dr, but I did watch Dr Kildare, and Marcus Welby MD when I was little. In the 60s.
    But if your not on meds, generally healthy and can take NSAIDS without burning up your stomach, or having a reaction. Youll live.:eek::eek::eek::oops::oops::oops:
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2018
  20. RaySachs

    RaySachs Strat-O-Master

    Jun 25, 2017
    Philly area
    I played football in high school and had two broken bones in three years (and arm and a leg). I ski bummed for a couple of years in my early 20s and twisted the crap out of my ankle telemark skiing. The twisted ankle hurt way more initially than either broken bone. The broken bones hurt waaaaaaay more after the first few hours than damn near anything else I’ve ever experienced - well, the leg did, the arm wasn’t quite as bad because I didn’t have to put weight on it and it wasn’t as badly broken, but it still hurt like hell. I’ve had pretty decent back problems over the years and one night I landed in the ER from that and was in such intense agony I was quite sure I was gonna die. That was the one time in my life I was on opioid pain meds and I thank god for em. I know they’re a huge problem, but for that 3-4 days, they were the only way I got through it before the muscles that had clamped down on that nerve finally relaxed.

    I wouldn’t be shy about getting medical help. It might be nothing, but it might not be nothing and it shouldn’t be that tough for someone qualified to figure it out...