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Peavey Windsor vs Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by cliffenstein, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. cliffenstein

    cliffenstein Strat-Talker

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    Here's a short iPhone comparison video I made for a friend. I think the Windsor holds up well.

     
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    sam_in_cali Scream for me Strat-Talk! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Both sound great....the Marshall ultimately gets my vote for tone but the Peavey is way easier on the pocketbook!

    I remember trying out one of the Windsor heads years ago and to my ears it was very reminiscent of a hot-rodded JCM800.
     
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    My 1979 JMP 2204 was stolen out of my car. This Windsor is the closest thing I've ever heard to the same sound. I love the DSL...it's actually my main gigging amp.
     
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    for the price I see these amps going for

    thats a good price to pay

    last one I saw locally was the head and matching cab for 350 CDN. Thats like 11 dollars USD
     
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    haha...I wouldn't recommend the cab...it sound okay, but it's MDF construction. It's not hard to find an old Marshall 1960 cab on the cheap. the Windsor sounds excellent through those.
     
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    carver The East Coast Strangler Strat-Talk Supporter

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    yeah but for 350 canadian,... if you dont like the cab you still get the head and then come winter you can use the 4X12 as a wicked sled and go ripping down some snowy hills in the ultimate form of style
     
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    How does the Peavey sound if you turn up the bass a little? I'd bet you could get it pretty close to the Marshall if you wanted to.
     
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    EQ settings for both are Bass 3, Mid 4, Treb 3, Presence 3. Plenty of room to move there, so yes. The Windsor is very much an old school Marshall sound.
     
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    Triple Jim Senior Stratmaster

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    The trouble is that the numbers on eq knobs aren't calibrated to any particular standard, so comparing amps with the knobs at the same numbers really isn't as meaningful (to me) as comparing amps after attempting to set the controls for a particular sound you're going for.
     
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    I dont like the DSL for the same reason I dont like the JCM900, that ever present "notch" in the midrange.

    If I had the choice, I'd take the Windsor.
     
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    Get 'em both...neither are expensive. Have you ever used DSL red channel lead 1? For my money, that's where the amp's greatness is.
     
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    Im a Mesa guy, though I do have a soft spot for early run JCM800s and JTMs.
     
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    I used a 2204 for years (really great amp, hard to beat and not the modern crunch but timeless goodie).
    A year ago I used a windsor when we opened a session night - I liked it and if I remember right the more you open the master volume and keep the gain deep the better it sounded.
    Remember : a JCM Marshall does not have tons of gain ..
     
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    Windsor = save $; killer deal
     
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    Textele Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Agreed.

    An EQ pedal with the Windsor would probably stomp on the Marshall.

    The issue with these two amps are both need to be pretty much, unbearably loud to sound proper IMO.
     
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    rudos1 Senior Stratmaster

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    I had the Windsor and it was ok. I think for a one channel Marshall sound the Peavey Butcher was MUCH better. (the old ones not the reissues). They are now getting hard to find..
     
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    Yeah, i think people may be getting carried away a little bit. I doubt that the Windsor "stomps all over the Marshall ".
     
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    Well, people who like a more old school Marshall tone could very well think that. My fingers playing my guitar going through my Windsor dialed in how I dial it in and connected to my 1985 JCM800 1960A cab loaded with original white label vented G12T75 speakers reminds me a TON of my 1979 JMP 2204 that was stolen out of my car after a gig some years back. It's a GREAT rig.

    Now...these are actually my heads and I don't think the Windsor "stomps all over the" DSL at all. The Windsor gives me the cool old school sound and I love that. The DSL is more modern...it's wider, bigger and smoother. I use them both all the time and love them.
     
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    rocknrollrich Senior Stratmaster

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    Yes. My comment wasn't really meant to disparage the peavey (I'm actually a fan of a lot of their stuff).
    I was just saying more or less, to be realistic about people's expectations.
    I don't think anything "stomps all over " the dsl. Better than.... sure according to preference. Stomps all over. ... not so much.

    Disclaimer tho. I love the Marshall sound. I think even the "bad ones" sound pretty marshall "y".
    They did make some turkeys over the years, but for the most part, they have made some of my favorite amps of all time.
     
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