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Picups, Pacifica 112J - Squier Classic Vibe 60

Discussion in 'Squier Strat Forum' started by G-Sun, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    Hi!

    I have a Yamaha Pacifica 112J
    love the tone in neck and middle, but issues:
    - To small for my big fingers
    - Inconsistent tone in high strings (vs low)
    (Strings 010 Ernie Ball)

    So, bought at Squier Classic Vibe 60
    and it has beautiful feel to it for me, plays really well.
    (Strings factory 009)
    but.. I realize I liked the tone of the Pacifica better.

    So, the SCV60 has Tonerider Classic Blues TRS3 pickups, right?
    Too much attack/snap/icy for my liking.

    Is it just a matter of replacing those with some Pure Vintage TRS1 and I'd be happy?
    Does the string-difference account for much of the difference?
     
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  2. balston11

    balston11 Senior Stratmaster Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 8, 2013
    Preston UK
    The string gauge shouldn't make a significant difference to the sound
     
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  3. IronSchef

    IronSchef Strat-O-Master

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    I am wondering if perhaps the pacifica uses those tiny 500K pots?

    If so, you might want to try putting in some CTS 250Ks - that should warm up those tonerider alnicos!
     

  4. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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  5. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks!
    I have a problem understanding how such a change makes a difference.
    Can you point me to anything that'll enlighten me on the subject?
     

  6. stratman in va

    stratman in va Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I am not totally sure about the science of why the 500k pot vs. the 250k pot makes a difference, but I am pretty well convinced that it does make a difference.

    Fender has traditionally used the 250 k ohm pots in their single coil guitars for many years.

    I really think that the volume pot change would make the most difference, as it seems to me that the volume pot is in the path of the signal in the circuit, and the tone with a capacitor is more of a filter that adjusts some frequencies sent to ground and some that are passed.

    Old, dead strings on a guitar will make some difference, but I don't know that this is a problem with your guitar.

    Check the Seymour Duncan site for some wiring diagrams for guitars.
     

  7. johnnymg

    johnnymg Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    Central Coast Ca
    That's really interesting what you say about the attack/snap. I find the 60's to be really smooth/vintagy.

    Soooooo........... try a string change first. Then try backing off the tone controls a bit.

    Note: Position 1 (bridge only) does NOT have the tone cap connected. The bridge is really "sharp" without a cap. You might need to mod the wiring to "correct" that.
     
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  8. Inverness

    Inverness Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 24, 2013
    Salt Lake City
    Start off by lowering your pickups on the Squier then proceed from there.
     

  9. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    I should note that I did adjust action up a little, for purer tone and less buzz.
    Maybe I should adjust the pickups up as well?
     

  10. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    Ok,hm.. I'll try 10s
    I know. I'll redo the wiring to tone + bridge-blend I guess
     

  11. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    This helped.
    Thank you!
     
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  12. MrHooligan

    MrHooligan Strat-Talk Member

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    Ghs strings as well. They seem to calm the snap and brightness down for me on my guitars that have the overly bright issue. And as stated above drop the pickups a bit lower. Sometimes small changes make a big difference. Side note- the pac112s are some great guitars when setup correctly! One of my favorites in the start styles.
     

  13. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    Thank you!
    I'll try the Gns-strings. What type do you exactly recommend?
     
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  14. SnowStorm

    SnowStorm New Member!

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    I've read that the Fender Pure Nickel strings have a bit less attack and are not as sharp as the Nickel Plated version. I've been very happy with the Pure Nickel (regular 10-46) on my CV60's Strat.
     

  15. G-Sun

    G-Sun Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks, I'll try those too :)
     

  16. MrHooligan

    MrHooligan Strat-Talk Member

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    The black packaging ones, can’t recall if they are the boomers or not as I’m not at home atm. Seem to be warmer to my ears. I swore by daddarios for every guitar I owned for years and picked up some ghs on a whim and glad I did cause they seem to work well on my bullet strat.
     
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