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  1. Raimonds

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    This is great lesson, overcomplicated chords which will make your fingers and wrist hurt :) It took me couple of days to get the shapes, then couple more days to train the speed. Keep practising and you will get this song under your fingers!

    Edit: I learned this on fender scale neck with 12 - 49 strings :)
     
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  2. Omar

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    I’m using my jazzbox with flat wound strings. Last night after practicing on the jazzbox, I switched to my start 9-46, my fingers thanked me lol. I didn’t have to apply any pressure against neck’s back, especially with jumbo fretwire :D

    Yes, it’s great, I’m really happy each time I sit down to practice. It took me 2 days to memorize the progression. Playing along the video has helped me a lot.
     
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    You’re a unique person and an extraordinary teacher :)

    Your comment is a remedy for my sore wrist ;)
     
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    This one is awesome!

    mickey baker.jpg
     
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    I have it ;) stuck at D13b5b9 :D in fact, I got busy learning jazz song so instead.

    Not bad GFI attempt. I’m just focusing on the changes for now, bosa nova rhythm is next.

     
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    Barre an Ab7. You see it above. 1-2-3. Then add the pinky. When I play it, the 1-3-4 fingers are sounded. I mute the rest. The chord can also be called an Ab7#9. Baker calls it D13b5b9 because it fits in the progression/key center the lesson is in.
     
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    I was working on my jazz chords, then I read a feature on Butch Vig, listened to Smashing Pumpkins for three days, mess around and got a wicked fuzz tone on my amp and have not played any jazzy chords since.
     
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    Good to hear, Omar!
     
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    I'll never be able to do that...
     
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  13. Omar

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    Thank you brother. How do you fingerpick 1-3? Thumb and index? Or you strum? I tried 1-3 thumb and index, 4 ring and pinky, it felt awkward.
     
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    Try simple progression with similar chord shapes, it’s fun :)
    Thank you Dave :D
    Passion and determination are your friends. I struggle, yet I welcome the pain ;)
     
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    I also like to use whole tone scales over augmented and other altered chords.
     
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    When I am stuck I sometimes focus on the chord from the top down. You could also simplify the seventh chords that have their root on the 6th string, leaving out that top note (the 5th of the chord) on the 2nd string.
     
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    Any recommended songs that cover different progression circle?
    It’s possible to omit 5th. It depends on the context.
     
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    If you play with a bass player or backing track you can omit the root in bass. If you are a jazz cat ( or kitten, like me) check out this guy!

     
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    have you given any consideration to using 'short' chords (3 & 4 note variations)?

    they have an advantage of being easily remembered and quickly acquired. they've a disadvantage of requiring careful strumming but in all respects are mastered without much effort.

    here's an example...
    http://www.strat-talk.com/attachments/short-chords-jpg.305692/
     
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  20. Omar

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    Thank you. The attachment doesnt open, I’d like to see those chords.

    I fingerpick when I play jazz. Strumming requires more control over unwanted notes.
     
    Omar, Oct 11, 2018
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