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Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by thomquietwolf, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Any one here ever recone their speakers?
    Got a 4" tear...
    Worth it"
    Problems?
     

  2. The Strat Dude

    The Strat Dude Duderino Strat-Talk Supporter

    I have a re coned speaker and it sounds fantastic. I suppose it depends on what it is to measure if it's worth it.
     

  3. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
    Undisclosed.
    Depends on the speaker. What speaker is it?
     

  4. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Jensen 10"
    Haven't decoded all the numbers on it yet
     

  5. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
    Undisclosed.
    A new Jensen? Ceramic or AlNiCo?
     

  6. henderman

    henderman Most Honored Senior Member

    Dec 4, 2013
    largo,fl
    I had a UK made Celestion Vintage 30 re-coned and I am happy as could be. If you like the speaker, I would say go for it.
     
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  7. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Pretty ancient
     

  8. sumran

    sumran Fan of Leo

    Mar 7, 2010
    Gainesville, FL
    If you are going to do it yourself the first thing is to figure out whether kits are available. Some are some aren't. Price the kit. Compare that cost to a new speaker. If it is a nice alnico, JBL or Altec it is worth it. Most others it is only worth it to keep stuff out of the landfill. That is worthwhile and it is good to keep things working. Some of us get excited making broken things work.

    Don't expect a big savings. One mistake and the math really works against you.
     
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  9. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    P10R
     

  10. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
    Undisclosed.
    New or old? If it's a 50's Jensen, I'd recone it.

    The Weber parts (Cones, spiders, voice coils, gaskets) will work for the old Jensens. I've done a ton of them. I wouldn't bother with new Italian Jensens. For a tear, I'd just repair it with glue and paper.
     
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  11. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    One was built last week
    June 1963
    Other, last week
    November 1963
     
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  12. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
    Undisclosed.
    I'd recone them in a heartbeat. :D
     

  13. Stevem

    Stevem Strat-O-Master

    932
    Sep 3, 2014
    NY
    No need to recone it!
    Get some automotive black silicone gasket maker .

    Run a bead of it that is fat enough to cover the rip then move each side of the rip back and forth enough to get sealer into the gap.

    Next dip your finger into some water well layden with dish soap So the sealer will not stick to your finger and smooth out the sealer bead some .
    Allow to cure over night and your golden !!
     
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  14. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Thanks guys.
    I'm carving out a cab to carry them.
    Actually sound good in a mock-up frame.
    And
    Steven, I did patch with silicone as you suggested.
    But
    53 years is a while...
    I'll be seeking recone kits
     

  15. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
    Undisclosed.
    I have four P10R's in my 5e6a. 2 from '56, 2 from '59. One has the original cone & motor. The rest have been reconed more than once. :D
     

  16. davidKOS

    davidKOS Musician, Composer, Teacher Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 28, 2012
    California
    What, give away old-school secrets?

    (in Curley's voice) Soitanly! Nyul Nyuk
     
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  17. rolandson

    rolandson Senior Stratmaster

    Resurrecting an old chestnut...

    Sadly the original Oxford in my blackface Deluxe Reverb is experiencing coil rub. I did what I could but, time caught up. Now, the Oxford is a nothing special speaker, aside from it being original to the amp, it pretty ... meh.

    But with it going south, that originality thing goes too. Of course I'll keep my eye out for another period correct original Oxford to keep the amp stock, but in the meantime?

    I can recone it or replace it. I've stumbled upon a period correct Jensen that, while expensive, is considered quite desirable for these things (DR) even though they were never used by Fender for the Deluxe during that time. I've also been toying with making a 2-10 soundboard for it because this thing sounds very nice in that configuration at 16 ohms. And it just so happens that I've a few 10" speakers laying about. just for home use, would never offer it to be sold that way.

    So...yeah, I'm bummed. I'm also uncertain about which will cause the largest hit to the amp's value; a recone or a mid sixties original Jensen?
     

  18. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Who knows...
    Got my 63 Jensen alnicos reconed
    $75.00 each
    Your call
     
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  19. fezz parka

    fezz parka Off.... Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 21, 2011
    Undisclosed.
    Recone the speaker. What model is the Jensen.
    I hope that 16 ohm thing is a typo. Do not run that amp with a 16 ohm load.
     
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  20. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday At the Crossroads, now which way do I go Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 19, 2011
    red barn, USA
    dumb question. I know nothing about the differences between an old original speaker or a newer speaker. So why recone? Do you still have to break in the new paper and material? Are the voice coils in the older speakers better than a newer one?

    gracias
     
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