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relicing my lotus.

Discussion in 'Non-Fender S-Type Guitar Forum' started by davidb1986, Dec 13, 2017.

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  1. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Oh that? Not a very reliable source!
     

  2. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Aren't legends in the same category as myths?
     
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  3. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    I also hear, this is not known fact.. that pre cat lacquer is actually used in the current production that claim nitro.. just what I hear
     

  4. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    Lol sure bud
     

  5. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    You know who Jamie Dickson is?
     

  6. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    Who is Curtis Novak?
     

  7. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    And they rolled right with the auto industry when they switched finishes
     

  8. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    OK, so now you've changed your argument. Now you're saying that it is nitro, but probably not exactly the same formula as Leo used in 1954. I agree with you. But earlier you were arguing that Fender never use nitro on any of their guitars, which we know is nonsense.

    My point is that the finish on my red '86 is substantially different to the modern poly finish on the OP's Lotus, which is why it will never age like mine did however much it's attacked with sandpaper. Whether the finish on mine is pure 1954 style nitro or more modern catalysed nitro is nit-picking detail. The fact is that my guitar (and many more besides) ages differently (some might say "better") than a poly finished guitar. That is the point I was making, & why you decided to barge in with quotes from obscure books just to try to score points is quite beyond me.
     
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  9. smithstrato

    smithstrato Senior Stratmaster

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    Heres a few natural relics with poly chipping off. Just a little is enough..theses have seen true abuse..imo the way to go...step away from the sand paper,,,wear rings bullet belts and chains for full relic power.

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  10. Fettmajik117

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    Points? What r u even talking about? Argument? All I'm saying is that fender stopped using nitro when the DuPont did. Pretty simple statement
     

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  12. jtees4

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    I had a Lotus, and modded it into a pretty good Strat before trading it. IMHO you should have left yours alone, it was pretty....now it looks sanded. I say sand it completely and get a clear coat....might look good. In fairness, I hate relicing so my opinion is baseless in this discussion. But I had to let you know what i think, after all...this is the internet and no one can just pass by a good
    discussion;)
     

  13. stratman323

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    Thanks for posting that - it simply confirms what I've been saying.

    There's no nice way to say this I'm afraid, but I can't avoid the conclusion that you really don't understand what you're talking about. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, as most people's Grandad's tell them.
     
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  14. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Yes, I tell the grandkids that all the time. :thumb:
     

  15. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    Some clearly know and some would convince themselves there's a magic coat of clear that makes their guitar special. The magic is in the Axe Man. Not the Axe.
     
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  16. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    Do a little research. Open a book
     

  17. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    1974 fender started using poly. No way in hell that 1986 strat is nitro. Simply put.
     

  18. Fettmajik117

    Fettmajik117 Strat-Talk Member

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    Only a 5-7% mix of nitro can even be legally added to an acrylic. Figure it out
     

  19. stratman323

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    Nobody said that - why don't you actually read what people wrote? Nobody is talking about anything making a guitar special - what we are discussing is the difference between the way the nitro finish on my AVRI ages over the decades with the effect of attacking the poly finish of a Lotus with sandpaper. Anyone with eyes can see the difference.

    It's clear that you are nothing more than a troll pursuing his own agenda, regardless of what has actually been said. Sad.
     

  20. stratman323

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    So what is it?
     

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