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Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by MaM86, Oct 11, 2018.

Valve or ST overdrive for a Bassman?

  1. Valve (high voltage)

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  1. MaM86

    MaM86 Strat-Talk Member

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    Hi All,

    I'm looking for an overdrive pedal for a Fender Bassman combo. Crunchy, dynamic base sound for a relatively hot (player series) strat, for medium volumes, smaller gigs.

    Valve (english muffin, LPB2) or solid-state stuff like Maxon, TS?
    Any suggestions, experiences?

    Thank you! :)
     
  2. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

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    Interesting that you specify "high voltage".
    I'm not a fan of starved plate designs that use as little as 50VDC on the plate.
     
  3. MaM86

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    I meant OD pedals where the tubes operate on high voltages. I'm not an expert, just trying to sort out wannabe valve sounds.
     
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    The-Kid Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Um....Try out an SD1.

    Those things sound amazing with Bassmans.
     
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  5. Mr. Lumbergh

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    What sort of budget are you trying to stick to?
    There's a pedal called the Detroit Casket coming out from Nocturne Brain that passes through the lows unscathed and clean, and doesn't add an artificial "mid-hump" after the drive. This is the sort of pedal I'd be looking for, but Tavo's pedals do command a premium.
     
  6. Stevem

    Stevem Senior Stratmaster

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    It takes a pretty hot signal out of a guitar to overdrive the first gain stage in that amp and I do not think your guitar has that, so any overdrive/ distortion your getting now out of the amp will be from the latter gain stages and the output stage clipping / distorting.

    All that being said even a clean boost stomp box would let you overdrive that first gain stage, but if the amp is in good shape with strong output tubes it's going to be loud thru 2-12" speakers when doing so!

    If your going to need to play at lower volumes then loud you have a few options.

    1) get a combination overdrive and distortion stomp box that is tube based.

    2) play thru only 1 12" speaker.
    This will half the sound pressure level in the room and since the amp will be driving a 8 ohm load and not it's normal 4 ohm load you knock 1/3rd of the output wattage off of the amp to allow you to crank the amp open more yet have less volume.

    3) install JJ electronics brand 6V6 tubes in the amps output section and set the bias right for them.
    This is my favorite mod for these amps for folks who play them but can play them load enough to overdrive the amps output stage and get that great sustane and dynamics out of the amp.
    This mod basically gives you the output power of a Deluxe reverb size amp!
     
  7. dbbluesproject

    dbbluesproject Senior Stratmaster

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    The answer depends on what kind of sound you are looking for.
    From the small amount of info you have given I would suggest a Barber Direct Drive SR.
    They are currently on sale at the Barber site for about $125.
    It will get you everything from clean overdrive to crunch (probably my favorite crunch pedal) and more if you want it.
    They are hand made and hand wired in the USA, they sound fantastic (“alive”) and they cost less than a new tube screamer!
     
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  8. MaM86

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    THX!
    I could go to 200-250, if it's good. And I like what you say: sorting out that artificial mid-hump, exactly! :) I'll check this stuff. However I'm located in the EU, but my father is in the US now, so maybe I can ask him to take a pedal. :)
     
  9. MaM86

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    Thanks!
    This is a 4 x 10 amp now, but theses mods sound interesting. I've been using a vox straight 8 pedal, which sounds very good, but with a good amount of distortion it narrows, thins the sound too much. With the volume up, it opens, but thats freaking loud, that's why I'm looking for another one, and using this first for solo boost.
    I think your first suggestion could be most suitable for me.
     
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    Normally I'd use 2 sounds on stage (plus a boosted for solo). A crunchy one and a thicker, more driven, also this for solo sound. Now I miss the first one, since I don't have a second overdrive pedal for that - that's what I'm looking for. So now I play a very dry clean with this amp, which is, as a matter of fact not bad. The key would be the valve-driven, dynamic crunchy sound with good response and pick attack.
    I check what you suggest!
     
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    J-Rad (Rockett pedals) The DUDE

    its so perfect with a bassman.
     
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    I've listened nearly sixty pedals, videos, samples, etc, today and by these materials I liked especially two from the non-valve offer: the Mesa Boogie Flux and the Orange Getaway. Both sounded good, but the Mesa is incredible.
    The Direct Drive sounded a but heavier than I'd expect on some videos.
     
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    cant go wrong with the analogman bad bob.
     
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    Some are a lot lower than 50!
     
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