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Discussion in 'Other Guitar Discussion' started by TangerineDog, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    The EU
    That's how you do it.
    That's how you modernize a classic.

    Solid first step back towards guitars that might sell, don't you think?


    Edit: sure, that doesn't solve all the problems, but I like them - especially the red ines look like a new LP model I can get behind.
    They look like no-nonsense Les Pauls, and I've missed that.
    So if a new LP model is specced like that at 1700£, things are looking up for me :)
     
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  2. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Senior Stratmaster

    Jun 10, 2013
    Hillsboro, OR, USA
    You play the gee-tar on the MTV?
     
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  3. Mississippi_Kid

    Mississippi_Kid Senior Stratmaster

    Yep...people want good Les Pauls. Gibson just needs to keep making ones for the traditional buyer...and keep the quality control up.

    (And I've spent way too many hours watching Andertons videos.)
     

  4. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va
    But they no longer have a 339. About the time I was about to start looking
     
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  5. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Victoria TX
    Have you played a 335? They aren't as big as you might think.
     
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  6. Paperback Rocker

    Paperback Rocker Nitro-mancer Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 18, 2014
    Victoria TX
    Can you refret richlite?
     
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  7. slowesthand

    slowesthand Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 23, 2011
    NY
    Does anyone else wonder why you can buy a $99 Epiphone SL with a Rosewood fretboard, a $120 Squier with a Rosewood fretboard, but with a Gibson you get Richlite and an American Fender you need to pay $50 more for Rosewood?
     

  8. Neil.C

    Neil.C Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 3, 2012
    Surrey, England

    I guess because China doesn't have the same sort of scruples when it comes to endangered woods.

    They still make huge lumps of furniture from rosewood.
     

  9. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    The EU
    That's why the new CITES regulations were devised in the first place :(
     

  10. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 5, 2015
    The EU
    Didn't he play a Strat? :D
    Yeah, I'm a potential traditional buyer too.

    But I appreciate the need for some modern twists on the classic LP and these are a nice compromise for now.

    But why are the P90 ones limited? -.- I can't save up 1700$ that fast!

    Oh, and I, too, have heard Chapman noodle more than I've heard Knopfler play in my life...
     
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  11. Musekatcher

    Musekatcher Strat-Talker

    Age:
    53
    286
    Jun 30, 2016
    Heart O' Dixie
    "Rosewood" has now become like "Mahogany", where many species are substituted under that name, to the point of only commonality is the color. Its only on high dollar instruments that the makers realize they have to divulge the actual species being used. For instance, you wouldn't be surprised if your $99 Epiphone "Mahogany" flattop was actually Luan. Or if your $99 Epiphone Les Paul rosewood fretboard was Grenidillo, Cocobolo, katalox? Its dark, therefore its "rosewood". Or baked Maple ;)
     

  12. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va

    Yes, I've played them. Not totally unmanageable but I'd prefer smaller
     
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  13. carolinaeasy

    carolinaeasy Senior Stratmaster

    I just noticed they have a 330...for 2018. I didn't read anything about it, but I think that is the model that replaced the 339 in the standard line. Maybe check that out, or call around to some Gibson dealers and see if anyone has a 339 in NOS.
     
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  14. John C

    John C Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 17, 2012
    Kansas City
    No, an ES 330 has the full-sized ES body but it is a hollowbody (no full-length center block, just small blocks under the bridge) and dog-ear P-90s. The traditional ES-330 design has the neck set in deeper into the body (joining the body at the 16th/17th fret instead of the 19th/20th fret for other ES models) although in the 1970s they made an ES-330 that had the traditional ES-335 neck join. The neck being set deeper into the body makes an ES-330 look smaller than the others.

    The ES-330 is the same as the Epiphone Casino - and because of the Beatles/other British Invasion bands association the Casino is better known than it's Gibson counterpart.
     
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  15. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it.
     
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  16. Stratoman10

    Stratoman10 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Aug 24, 2015
    Va. Beach, Va

    CME has a few still, the internet story is that they bought a bunch but are selling them as floor demos. They sell a few, then get more and repeat. I hope they still have some in a couple months. I could do it now but it would really hurt. So I have to wait a couple months

    My local music store was a Gibson dealer until a few months ago. Gibson just wanted them to by more stock then was practical for them. Not only did Gibson specify a six figure order but they had to buy X amount of whatever models Gibson decreed. No matter what the store could reasonably expect to sell, so they declined. They still talk but nothing on the near horizon
     
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  17. carolinaeasy

    carolinaeasy Senior Stratmaster

    You will be able to find one. I got my Es335 as NOS this year and saved a ton and it was from a family owned music store in Missouri. They were awesome to deal with and did a full setup for me and it arrived in tip top shape, perfectly intonated, and the neck was beautiful. You might have to call some smaller Gibson dealers and ask, you will most likely find an incredible deal that way.

    I bought a Gibson Les Paul Special from CME recently. It was a "demo" but in reality was brand new. They claimed they checked it out and did a set-up but it was a wreck set-up wise when I received it from them. I was less than enthused with that portion of their service. If I was to order from them again I would bust their balls about the setup prior to payment and make it clear that you expect it to arrive in perfect intonation. Otherwise, you might be in the mess I was in.
     
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  18. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Senior Stratmaster

    Jun 10, 2013
    Hillsboro, OR, USA
    Actually, on the Brothers In Arms album (where that song is from), I believe he played a Les Paul.
     

  19. carolinaeasy

    carolinaeasy Senior Stratmaster

    I get that they are different guitars, but is it possible the 330 was put into the "slot" that the 339 used to hold in production? That is the point I was making, and thanks for the great write up on the 330. I have a Casino and love it, the casino is no where near the same feel or size as my 335. Much thinner.
     

  20. simoncroft

    simoncroft Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    61
    May 30, 2013
    SE England

    Although I have no personal experience, there are a lot of Martin players who say they have had successful refrets on richlite boards.
     
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