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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Mansonienne, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. AncientAx

    AncientAx Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Nov 24, 2010
    Maryland
    Yeah ,Mick is a killer player all the way around !
     
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  2. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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    54
    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    New song today - took Roguestock Strat out for a spin with its SD Hot Rails in the bridge, the Blues Driver and The DRRI.
    So not very clean:whistling:

     
  3. 3bolt79

    3bolt79 Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 16, 2018
    Tacoma in two weeks
    I saw Bonnie Raitt in a show with Robert Cray, and SRV. I was blown away by her slide skills. It is a different skill altogether to be sure. I know I can’t do it.
     
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  4. Strat Jacket

    Strat Jacket Senior Stratmaster

    May 11, 2018
    Illinois
    Pretty darned good for someone who picked up the slide a few weeks ago!
     
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  5. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    Thanks! :)
     
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  6. fezz parka

    fezz parka Do you Reach? Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2011
    Going to Eden...Hey Brother...
    I use an old Coricidin bottle. I prefer standard tuning as well.



     
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  7. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    Very nice (as always!).
     
  8. fezz parka

    fezz parka Do you Reach? Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2011
    Going to Eden...Hey Brother...
    Your bit above is really good. You're a natural. :)
     
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  9. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
  10. crashbelt

    crashbelt Strat-Talker

    435
    Feb 27, 2012
    England
    Thanks for sharing your first slide audio - very nice feel.

    Bonnie Raitt is awesome and I saw her quoted somewhere saying its about how she slides to the note that's as important as where it lands. You can hear that in her playing - really adds soul to her slide work.

    Ry Cooder is my other slide hero - saw him last month, still brilliant. His parts are all about feel and very accurate damping to isolate his often complex voicings. I'm still struggling with some of his stuff after decades of slide playing in bands!

    P90s are made for slide if you have a guitar with some. I've been using a battered 59 Les Paul Special with a repaired heel break for 30 years straight into a nicely clipping tweed amp - never found another guitar to get close to it for slide despite trying a few others over the years.

    You'll definitely be rewarded for the time and effort you put into it from now - best of luck.
     
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  11. davidKOS

    davidKOS Musical Hermit Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 28, 2012
    California
    Interesting.

    I play slide in standard tuning, open G and open D, functionally the same as A and E but lower in pitch.

    I use the D G D G B D tuning, though, with that low D which you can ignore to sound like KR, but comes in handy for other music.

    Standard tuning is useful as it has a minor chord, too.

    The use of the 4th finger to hold you slide allows for both use of 3 fingers as fretting fingers AND the Landreth behind-the-bar chord voicings.

    I play very little slide these days as I prefer lap steel too!

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    One of my favorite players ever:

     
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  12. himijendrix

    himijendrix Senior Stratmaster

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    71
    May 2, 2012
    Barrow Upon Soar, UK
    That's spot on, sliding right up the neck to hit G at the 12th fret can sound like the intro to a Tom and Jerry cartoon film if you're not careful!
     
  13. davidKOS

    davidKOS Musical Hermit Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 28, 2012
    California
    I think you mean the Looney Tunes cartoon theme, with the lap steel slide gliss played by Freddie Tavares, one of the designers of the Strat!

    http://www.factfiend.com/guy-played-looney-tunes-theme-pretty-awesome/

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    https://www.theguitarmagazine.com/features/all-about/all-about-freddie-tavares/

    "Even if you’ve never heard of Freddie Tavares, you’ve almost certainly heard him. That was Freddie playing the iconic pedal-steel glissando at the start of the Looney Tunes theme tune in 1942, and he can also be heard strumming the ukulele on Elvis Presley’s Blue Hawaii. "

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Tavares

    "The signature steel guitar swoop at the beginning of every Warner Bros. Looney Tunes theatrical short was played by Tavares."

    http://www.strat-talk.com/threads/trivia.411954/page-3

    our own forum

    https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=151011&sid=5b7ecf97de0fcb6e41b0f64bd6c23adf

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    The steel that "swoop" was played on
     
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  14. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 19, 2011
    somewhere
    Sonny Landreth makes has that strat singing in ways never imagined.
     
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  15. davidKOS

    davidKOS Musical Hermit Strat-Talk Supporter

    May 28, 2012
    California
    I forgot to add a bit of actual encouragement and advice!

    First, keep at it, slide is great fun! even acoustic slide blues and such.

    My advice - pay attention to muting and what is called "blocking" which is essentially the same thing - stopping the other unwanted strings from making noises when playing slide or steel. This will go a long way in making your slide work sound more professional.

    https://vidweb.aws.marketlive.com/jimdunlop_vid/text/content/pdp/manuals/Slide_Chart.pdf

    Dunlop slide sizing chart

    My current favorites for slide and steel:

    Dunlop 212

    "This 212 glass slide provides a warm, thick tone that accentuates the middle harmonics of your sound, featuring heavy wall thickness and a small diameter."

    Vintage Nick Manoloff tone bar for lap steel:

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  16. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    Thanks! Yes, my Casino has Gibson P90s. I started on that and will get it back out again (I’d been trying out slide on different guitars and liked the Strats’ sustain)
     
  17. Mansonienne

    Mansonienne Stratocrastinator Extraordinaire Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    54
    Dec 2, 2015
    Paris suburbs, France
    Thanks! I have a Dunlop glass slide, and, yes, definitely need to keep working on muting!!!
     
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  18. knh555

    knh555 Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    47
    Dec 6, 2016
    Massachusetts
    I usually use standard tuning, including all of the below. I'm not a fan of overdoing the slide where you sometimes here people with excessive slide vibrato. Best to practice hitting the note instead of hiding behind vibrato b/c you can't hit it. Use your ears more than your eyes to hit the note. Ears can be trained. Think of all those fretless instruments being played out there. Slide is similar. Here's one of my goes at it in one of the Jams. The first three minutes is all slide:





    Practicing on acoustic will give you very honest feedback, as you've seen. Even though I get a big buzzy at times, just practice playing through it and keep the tune together. This is an end-to-end jazz improv, also one of the weekly Challenges:




    Finally, to show the benefits of sliding on the pinky and what you can do with your other fingers, here's the first thing I ever recorded on slide not long after I decided I wanted to be decent at it. I was just futzing around with blues in G on an acoustic in standard tuning. Having the other three fingers free really opens up possibilities.

     
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  19. nungesser

    nungesser They've Killed Fritz! Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2014
    Ireland
    Hey you got it! well done! sounds great, you nailed it, nice and dirty tone just like the original
     
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  20. WhiteWabbit

    WhiteWabbit Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    29
    Nov 6, 2014
    Canada
    That’s really good and a great song choice ;). You got the tone and feel down. I usually use this glass Dunlop I’ve had forever but lately I’ve been using a piece of 3/4” copper M. Has a nice bite to it.
     
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