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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Chont, Apr 14, 2019.
Cancelling Firefly was a travesty....
I don't have V, but I do own TMP. And I suppose it didn't earn the moniker The Motionless Picture for nothing......................
At least Joss was given the opportunity to swap it up with Serenity, and now with 9-1-1 and American Horror Story, it looks like Tim's "early cancellation" curse with Fox has been broken.
And speaking of Firefly... did anyone else notice the similarity (but not a rewrite) between "Out of Gas" (Tim Minear) and March 25th's 9-1-1 "Chimney Begins" (Erica L. Anderson)?
Ya... Been a SciFi nut since I was a kid, before Apollo, but Dad worked on the CSM in Downey, so everything "space" has always been an interest.
I'm not into the conventions and Cosplay, and even though I could mouth the script to most of TOS, I don't speak Klingon.
I'll buy a BlueRay because my OCD says I must have the complete collection, even if it sucked and I'll never watch it.
I'm trying to get the complete collection of Stratocasters but I'm going to need a bigger house
My favorite review of the last movie. I don’t think I’ll bother with the next one.
Don't feel bad. Neither do I. I speak Traditional Golic Vulcan...........................
You know better than that...
28 minute dissection of Last Jedi? No thanks. I’d actually rather watch The Last Jedi
It's now all in the hands of The mouse,
Money rules !!!
I love money
I’d Like to have more of it
I apologize in advance, this will be long winded.
I've been a Star Wars fan since the first time I saw it as a child in 1995. I love the original trilogy and I love the prequel trilogy, even with its flaws.
When the Disney merger happened, it seemed like everyone around me was excited but I wasn't. "But look how great the Marvel movies are!" they would say. Sure, the Marvel movies are fine but they are also based on comic books so the average comic book fan is ok with a movie a year because they are conditioned to new stories on a monthly basis. I was afraid when Kathleen Kennedy announced a Star Wars movie a year because I believed that it would over saturate the market. I don't know about the rest of you, but I remember seeing a star wars movie in theaters, come out excited and hyped myself up for the next 3 years waiting for the next one. Now, Star Wars feels mass produced.
I saw The Force Awakens four separate times in theaters. On my first viewing, it was a little difficult for me to take in. There was a lot of mystery to it, a lot of unknowns, but the one thing that bothered me most was that directing wise, it just didn't feel like Star Wars. I'm not dissing JJ, I guess I got used to seeing George's style in Star Wars films. By the third viewing, it felt like a really vague, played safe version of A New Hope. I was over all disappointed. I didn't want safe. I wanted something new and exciting. I think we all did. But everytime I walked out of the theater, 99% of fans were praising it, and I just didn't get it.
Rogue One is the only Star Wars movie I have never seen in a theater. I had some unforseen circumstances prevent me from seeing it. But when I finally did, I really enjoyed the film. I think it is a perfect addition to the franchise. My only complaint wasn't with the film, but with Disney. They first gave us an episode 4 clone, and then gave us a direct prequel to episode 4. Again, I felt like they were playing it safe.
When The Last Jedi came out, I went into it knowing what to expect. I am a fan of Rian Johnson and I know this movie was going to stir the hornets nest. That was what I had wanted all along. I am in the minority of fans who really enjoyed it, although, there are things about it that I strongly dislike. I couldn't exactly figure out what it was that made episode 8 feel like Star Wars to me, however, I finally found out. The Last Jedi was based on George Lucas's episode 7 script. Yep, that script. The one that Disney threw away. Episode 8 felt right to me because this is where George saw Star Wars going. Just like how fans hated the prequels, the fandom jumped on the band wagon for The Last Jedi too.
Solo was... I thought it would have made a cool sci fi/heist film if it had been anything other than Star Wars. It just wasn't needed. Glover made an excellent Lando though, but that is about the only real positive I can give it.
And now we find ourselves at episode 9, the last of the Skywalker saga, and while fans everywhere are losing their minds with celebration, I kinda shrugged my shoulders at it. I just don't care at this point. Am I going to see it? Absolutely. I am invested at this point but I just don't feel hyped about it at all.
There are 3 things that I feel have ruined Star Wars for me. The first is Disney churning out Star Wars, Star Wars and more Star Wars. The second are the characters. There have been no new characters that I feel attached to. They all feel bland. And the third is the fandom. It has just progressively become more toxic with time.
I decided to go and see The Rise of Skywalker, but I think for me, this is where I hang up my Star Wars hat and walk away. I'm just interested any more.
It's the last of the "saga"... the last Skywalker movie.
That hints heavily that Kylo was not lying when he told Rey that she had no "special" bloodline... she is not a Skywalker descendant, but we saw Rey, Fin, and even to some degree, Poe showing characteristics of being Force-aware, Force-sensitive, or having outright natural Force abilities.
No, it's the last Skywalker movie... but there is still the untold (at least in movies) backstory on Rey, the Battle of Jakku, general Rebel activities following ROTJ that lead to the actual fall of the empire, and ultimate replacement by the First Order....
There is 30 years of missing history to be filled in.
The 28 minute discussion might be more entertaining
Personally I think I might find 28 minutes of just talking about talking about The Last Jedi more entertaining than The Last Jedi............
God knows they could have made that movie an hour shorter (seemed like an hour) by cutting the casino scene and the scene with Rey in the cave.
The cave *may* yet reveal some meaning in this next film, but the Casino scene was a complete waste of celluloid... and like "The Phantom Menace" made no difference nor revealed anything to the plot.
'There is no try. There is just do.' So no matter how bad or good, it has been a part of my youth and a part of my adulthood. I will collect the entire series in whatever format is currently popular.
I remember it well. Grauman' s Chinese Theater. Half way to the center of the V-ger cloud I yelled "Get there already!" The applause was deafening. LOL
I saw Star Wars from the back of a van on a lawn chair at a drive in cinema. How 70's was that? I loved the first one, liked the next two. End of line.
Well, I saw it in a theater in Spokane when it came out and I was 8, so I loved it then. Years later, subsequent viewings left me both with some things I still liked and a realization that most of the rest of it is actually pretty damn dull................
I was 20. Thankfully they made II. It'd be a shame if it all had ended with that one.
Star Trek II is, in my opinion, one of the best sequels ever made. Then again, so is The Empire Strikes Back, which I also saw when it came out. I actually saw that before I saw the original Star Wars which I didn't see until my teens, rented on VHS.