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Stock 74 tremolo bridge ok for modest whammy use?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Burnhaven, Oct 2, 2018.

  1. Burnhaven

    Burnhaven Strat-Talk Member

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    Sep 4, 2018
    Bellingham, WA
    I want to start using the whammy bar a bit. The bridge is blocked flush with the top of the guitar and I expect to keep it that way, so I'd only be pushing the whammy arm down, usually not much. Just gentle "warbles" here and there. Should I expect a lot of tuning problems? It has a graph tech nut and locking tuners.
     
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  2. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    I have no issues with my - 77, warbling to my heart's content.
     
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  3. mutato

    mutato Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 10, 2007
    RI
    Should be fine. Just make sure string path is lubricated everywhere.
     
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  4. Burnhaven

    Burnhaven Strat-Talk Member

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    Bellingham, WA
    Are you able to add to your playing this way, or do you miss the ability to pull up?
     
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  5. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Squier-A-Holic Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 19, 2014
    Windsor, Ontario, Canada
    Floating causes more issues with stability, you CAN get it stable with a float but it just requires more work.....and, if you break a string, everything else goes out of tune....
     
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  6. abnormaltoy

    abnormaltoy BushBaby Strat-Talk Supporter

    Apr 28, 2013
    Tucson

    I know a lot of folks deck their trems, I have blocked it on a guitar or two...I really have no idea how decking works in practice. Is their a thud or some sound when the trem returns and seats? Other than blocking I have floated and was able to get the Lenny and Riviera Paradise shimmer thing.
     
  7. Dick Blackmore

    Dick Blackmore Strat-O-Master

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    Jan 10, 2017
    San Diego
    It saddens me when people expect issues and or have issues like breaking strings. Setup correctly you should be able to use it without tuning issues. Using it lightly should not be a problem even on a poorly setup trem. Breaking strings should not be happening, you have a mechanical problem if that is happening.

    It was designed to float and stay in tune. It does that.
     
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  8. Jiffster

    Jiffster Strat-Talk Member

    62
    Feb 7, 2014
    Michigan
    I can’t remember the last time I broke a string and I play very aggressively at times. I really think it’s probably been at least 30 years or more.

    This is with using floating terms including floyd’s since mid-80’s with lots of pull-up’s with a rear carve before it was fashionable.

    I like my trems to float. It’s just my preference.
     
  9. kurher

    kurher Strat-Talk Member

    60
    Oct 2, 2017
    Greece
    In a good setup, you'll probably have better stability and a smoother feel with a floating bridge. I'm assuming by blocked you mean decked (kept in position by the springs' pull and not blocked off), otherwise you risk damage.
     
  10. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    Mine's floating FWIW. No exotic nut. New tuners made a difference though, the old ones were worn out after 40 years.
     
  11. mad axe man

    mad axe man Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 23, 2016
    ontario canada
    is it a 74 strat? if so got any pics?
     
  12. Burnhaven

    Burnhaven Strat-Talk Member

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    Bellingham, WA
    Here are some photos. One shows the original neck
     

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  13. Burnhaven

    Burnhaven Strat-Talk Member

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    Yes, decked. I haven't broken a string in years --- change them monthly. I'll probably try decked first and then experiment with floating.
     
  14. Burnhaven

    Burnhaven Strat-Talk Member

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    Got the 'BLOCKED' idea here:

     
  15. apm1991

    apm1991 Senior Stratmaster

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    Feb 14, 2017
    Arizona
    everyone on here has told me I should have no problem using the whammy bar on my MIM Strat, but it goes out of tune when I do.. maybe i'm yanking too hard I'm not sure.. It's ok for one song, but for a 10 song set I just can't get it to stay in tune if I use it a lot
     
  16. Burnhaven

    Burnhaven Strat-Talk Member

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    Sep 4, 2018
    Bellingham, WA
    And your bridge is set up to float -- in other words you can move the whammy bar up or down? What sort of nut and tuners on the guitar?
     
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  17. apm1991

    apm1991 Senior Stratmaster

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    Feb 14, 2017
    Arizona
    no, I have it decked... people here said it can be decked and still be ok, to me it makes more sense it needs to floating... just whatever comes standard on a MIM Strat
     
  18. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    I have all my trems free floated (with Hipshot tremsetters), no special tuners and only TUSQ nuts on a couple and I have zero problems.
     
  19. mad axe man

    mad axe man Senior Stratmaster

    Jul 23, 2016
    ontario canada
    do you prefer a hard tail over a trem strat?
     
  20. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    I forgot to mention that I don't use the D/G string tree, in my case that is key to staying in tune when using the wobbly-stick.
     
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