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Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by MayerFan, Sep 8, 2011.
Or go to the source of the chord/scale method:
I never understood the argument that theory somehow makes you less musical. Knowing something about Relativity doesn’t force my understanding of gravity as much as it allows me to explain what is happening and why. Music theory is no different. What sounds pleasing? What do we like? Theory does nothing more than provide a framework to understand and describe it.
I have plenty of feeling. What I need are more skills...
BB knew exactly what he was doing and understood theory a lot more than he gets credit for, IMO.
BB has forgotten more theory than most of us have ever known. What he doesn't know is the academic words for discussing it. (And actually, he knows a lot more of THAT than he gets credit for.)
Theory AND feeling... not vs.
Just like 'advanced technique' and feeling...
despite all too common perception, these things should not be seen
as mutually exclusive imo.
One can't exist without the other in a musical context. Wether you can put words on the theory to explain it is another matter but lacking the ability to do so doesn't mean you don't understand it at some level.
I know this is a zombie thread, but...
Saying one can't play with feeling (and good luck defining what that is) if one knows theory is like saying Kurt Vonnegut can't write a compelling story because he learned grammatical rules.
A blast from the past . . . . Malikon, Celeste, GuitarAJ, Pauln . . . . long time, no see
The Twyla Tharp quote nailed it . . . .
Thank you. This question comes up on every forum.
Well Jimi doesn't know theory - well you aren't Jimi so go learn some theory
I have a friend that said theory ruins your creativity - your friend is a dope
All these rules ... - Theory isn't rules, Theory is an explanation of the music
Well I know the killer player that doesn't know any theory - yes, it happens. I've heard that some cows are born with two heads too.
Ignorance is never a benefit. For every happy accident that creates great music I hear 1000 stupid accidents that make it sound worse. I've seen exponentially more ignorant musicians that suck than ignorant musicians that are stellar. Even the stellar musicians who don't know theory are nine out of ten times one trick ponies.
If you want to play Mustang Sally with your friends at the corner bar for fun, no theory is needed. If you want to be a serious musician, go get an education.
Wait..........Vonnegut writes in baby talk...
What's wrong with Mustang Sally?
It's great... even better when you stand it on its head.
Even if you do not know theory or what the notes, chords or anything else is and can only play by ear or even just hunt and peck "feeling" stlye...
Whatever you play that works and sounds good can be explained and will match up correctly with formal theory explainations in a classroom setting.
Learning even the small amount of theory I know expanded what I already knew by a ton and gave me more to feel with.
it is hard for me to understand that we all do not understand this.
Too funny............ the OP bailed out (of this thread and forum) almost 6 years ago.
It's fear, pure and simple. Fear of not getting it, fear of it "changing" the way you play (misinformation from the "feel" crowd). And...a complete misunderstanding of its "complexity". It's not hard, as you well know.
Learning theory did change the way I play. For the better IMHO. I like to think that I play with feeling, and always have, but learning theory opened up new areas of exploration for me that I was ignorant of before.
I think I still play with feeling, but my playing is developing, and yes it has changed the way I approach my playing, but it did not change the underlying personality or feel of my playing. Theory, far from being a limitation, has broken down barriers and given me greater freedom by showing me new possibilities and ways to express myself. It has also become easier for me to learn and memorize new songs now.
I say do not fear, embrace.
You read me like a book on that one!
Before someone introduced me to theory in the simple to understand from the beginning version I am climbing the ropes of, I figured it was way to hard to understand and avoided it like the plague.
Too bad... they might have actually learned something if they'd stuck around, LOL.
In any case, if the question's not going away, why not keep on answering it?
You left out "laziness."