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To whammy or not to whammy, that is the question.

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Antstrat, May 12, 2019.

  1. nederemer

    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    I was not and still am not much of a whammy user. I use it sparingly, but not like some people, and essentially I just use it for depression style not really to make the note sharper because I would ordinarily just bend on that.
     
  2. roadhog96

    roadhog96 Strat-O-Master

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    Why not install a locking device that allows you to use it when ever you want or lock it if your not in the mood. There are plenty on the market available that do this. Most of you leave your Trem cover off anyway so gaining access to it is a cinch. Years ago I put one in my G&L S500 because I wasn’t using the Trem but when I got back in a band I unlocked it because there were a couple songs we did that I heeded the Trem. Not in a band at the moment so it’s locked again.
     
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  3. guitartwonk

    guitartwonk Strat-O-Master

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    That's like buying a Ferrari then putting a limiter on it at 50mph.... pointless.

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  4. guitartwonk

    guitartwonk Strat-O-Master

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    Whammy all the way.

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  5. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

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    That’s me! Would have bought a hard tail if my local shop had had one in stock.
     
  6. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

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    In another thread the general opinion seems to be that tone is all in the player...................
     
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  7. JB74

    JB74 Strat-O-Master

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    Let's see..
    Guitars with vibrato... 6
    guitars without...5

    Might have to go to the third umpire...

    I can neck bend all of them.

    vibrato ftw!

    But if you want some highly opinionated bias, read on.

    The strat vibrato is crap. So is the bigsby B7. I have them both.

    The Jazzmaster vibrato is fantastic. The standard floating bridge isn't, so a staytrem fixes that permanently and sounds great.

    Kauffman and Maestro vibrolas are great for stability, considering how basic they are, I would have kept my old SG if it weren't for the crack in the headstock....

    The most challenging to setup was the edge zero 2 in my missus ibanez, BUT it is now dead-nuts stable, needs no adjustment on string changes and has huge bidirectional range - unequalled by all my others...
    But it is not a subtle vibrato - it's one you need to rip on. It has very little sensitivity in the 'micro-vibrato' region, because of the spring tension.

    The winner for me is the vibrato on my Deusenberg TV Phonic.

    It is so soft smooth and lush and sensitive. It always returns to tune. It's stable under aggressive playing. It has a great range and is very useable.

    It's everything a bigsby should have been.

    If you have a guitar with a bigsby B7 (the under-over style roller version) then instead of restringing 'over the top' of the roller for the sensitivity fix and tuning stability, search for biggsfix - it's an offset roller that replaced the bigsby roller. It relieves just enough angular string tension to allow the vibrato to work better.
    Some people prefer a softer spring in their bigsby. It's personal preference.

    Having said that, the deusenberg vibrato still kicks the bigsby on my gretsch. not even in the same ballpark.

    Now, I want a shrubbery. :D
     
  8. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Strat-Talker

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    Hardtail here. Love it. Simple, solid and makes for stable tuning. More so that a block and bar? Who knows?

    Me thinks a hardtail has a little Tele DNA in it and comes across in the tone. I can do the bridge and neck pickup together like a Tele too using a blender pot.

    I did a build in 1981 with all brass parts with SS whamola which was big then. Never had the patience or resources (internet) to get it setup right. Never used it.
     
  9. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496 Strat-Talker

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    I love the whammy. I use the whammy. I realize that most guitarist seem to have a thang against using a whammy but for me it's a soloing tool just like bends, pedals and the volume knob.
     
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  10. Antstrat

    Antstrat Strat-Talker

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    Ask and ye shall recieve:
     
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  11. StratoMutt

    StratoMutt Strat-Talker

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    I like them just fine. They sound great in the right hands.

    I also do not use pedals. I like the sounds, just not the fuss.
     
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  12. CigBurn

    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I generally have come to deck mine. I use a little on songs that call for it like Riviera Paradise, Lenny, Wicked Game.. They sound funny without.
     
  13. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496 Strat-Talker

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    Interesting. But, it seems that strings through the body would give it even more "uniqueness".

    My Sixty Six came with 9's and 3 springs. I replaced the 9's with 10's and added a 4th spring which holds the bridge flush against the body. What gauge strings do you use?
     
  14. gjohnson441496

    gjohnson441496 Strat-Talker

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    I can dig it.
     
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  15. JB74

    JB74 Strat-O-Master

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    No-one's mentioned the hipshot B-Bender yet. Anyone have one?
     
  16. rlongnt

    rlongnt Strat-Talker

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    Whammy away. I don’t use it much but it just doesn’t look right if it’s not there.

    Peeling off the round sticker that holds the spring in and screwing in the tremolo arm on a brand new Strat is pretty awesome!!!
     
  17. rolandson

    rolandson Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    On planks...9's. I prefer 11's but injury and arthritis have mandated a gradual reduction in tension.

    While I much prefer the sound of a hardtail, truth is, to my ear, a tele is capable of similar tonal qualities...in addition to those of its own. A strat is very different.
     
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  18. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Return of the Red Helmet Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I Also added a palm G bender to it. Works well.

    Jazzmaster vibratos are crap.
    Bigsbys are touchy but for shimmer, they're fine.

    The Strat Vibrato is the king for me. Definitely not crap. ;)
     
  19. perttime

    perttime Strat-O-Master

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    Way back, I had a Kramer superstrat with a Floyd Rose. Eventually, I found that the whammy had become a distraction. Been a hardtail guy since then. Never say never....
     
  20. Swampash

    Swampash Senior Stratmaster

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    My preferred setup is a decked good-quality Floyd clone with a locking nut.
     
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