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Discussion in 'Guitar Owners Clubs' started by felis, May 9, 2014.

  1. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    That's OK, I already did. It was a great work wagon.
     

  2. Anderoid78

    Anderoid78 New Member!

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    May 17, 2017
    Norway
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    Just bought this beauty. The seller said it's an 81 or 82 st60.
    Does anyone have an opinion on that?
     

  3. usul1978

    usul1978 Guitar bricolo Strat-Talk Supporter

    Dec 9, 2015
    France
    My opinion is the same. It's a beauty. I love metallic red !

    The final prospec saddles are the best element to give a period I think, but I'll let others give their opinion !
     
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  4. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Congrats :cool:, welcome to the Tokai club (and this forum ;))
     
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  5. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
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    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    Probably a 1981, yes, but I would have thought it could be an ST50 or ST60. Not that there is any real difference between the two. Congrats.
     
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  6. Anderoid78

    Anderoid78 New Member!

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    May 17, 2017
    Norway
    I think I read somewhere that the st60's came with u pickups, but i may be mistaken
     

  7. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    ST60s can have Es or Us. Mine has Es. ST50s had Us. ST50 seems more likely, but it really doesn't matter.
     

  8. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    FWIW several sources on TF state butterfly string tree (on those models and production dates), indicate ST50?

    Going by this and the 5 digit serial and '7okai' headstock logo, my best gues would be 1982 ST50?

    PS reminder, I started with 'FWIW' and 'best guess' later on! :whistling:;)
     

  9. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
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    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    Surely a serial number beginning with a 1 indicates 1981?
     

  10. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    The prior 7 digit ones for sure, following sequences (post 1981) 4/5/L5/6 not, I think?
     

  11. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    So how does it work? I thought it was simple.
     

  12. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium

  13. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK

  14. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    As I understand it ;), post 1982 Fender replica neck plate numbers (4/5/L5/6) are random sequence. The number of digits indicate which model F type is replicated, not indicating production year.
     

  15. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    So 1980 Tokai serial numbers are different to 1981? I'm not really sure that I care enough to bother learning all this....
     

  16. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Different to (post mid)1982?
     

  17. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    No one's saying you have to if you don't want to. ;)
     
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  18. Will Lefeurve

    Will Lefeurve Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 1, 2016
    England & France
    I'm tending (doesn't mean I'm convinced) to think 82 rather than 81. I have an 81(that I can verify as 81) Tokai Strat with a seven digit (not 5) serial beginning with a 1. That guitar also has Tokai stamped saddles, not Final Prospec as in the example being discussed.

    Who knows for sure though? maybe the neck on this guitar has been changed?

    Nice looking guitar though whatever... congratulations @Anderoid78
     
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  19. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    In 1980, a serial number beginning with 0 indicates 1980, right? So you're saying that this all changed in 1981?
     

  20. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Yes, on a 7 digit serial number, as far as I understand it, the first 2 numbers represent production year.
    A 4/5/L5 neck plate number indicates which type (era) of F. model Tokai was replicating, these 4/5/L5 numbers no longer indicate production year.


    No, as I said before, I think, to my best knowledge, the change took place "post 1981, around mid 1982"?

    Any reason you keep referring to 1981?
     
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