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Discussion in 'Guitar Owners Clubs' started by felis, May 9, 2014.
Yeah... that sounds pretty feasible, makes sense... 'Tokai sense' that is..
That's the key!
Yes, because I thought that the guitar we were discussing was from 1981! The serial number begins with 1, so if the change didn't take place till 1982 (as you say), doesn't that mean it's from 1981?
I do find it very frustrating that such nice guitars have been lumbered with such a nonsensical serial number system. Particularly when the earlier system was so logical! Why oh why oh why did they make such a stupid decision?
And of course the other key factor here is that it doesn't make a blind bit of difference whether the guitar was made in 1981 or 1982, nor whether it's an ST50 or an ST60. It doesn't affect how well it plays, nor how it sounds, it doesn't even affect it's value.
'In my theory' , a 5 digit number is from mid 1982 (?) on (the first number being '1' is in no reference to production year).
The number (amount 7/4/5) of digits is important here, I think?
My only Tokai is a 1980 Silver Series I picked up a couple of years ago for next to nothing. It was early on in my love affair with MIJ guitars; since then I've bought a number of LP types but no more MIJ Strats. (I do have a Japanese-made Tele Aerodyne though.)
This isn't a high end model but it sounds good and plays pretty well. Has a small neck- makes me feel like my hands are as big as Jimi's!
By the way, I may have some good news for you?
Apparently, from (at least) 2016 the newer TST models are back (with a 6 digit serial number on neck heel) to first two digits production year reference.
I see there has been a few responses to my question since i last checked in (I forgot about it for a little while)
Thank you all for your inputs. I have learned a lot from this, although I must admit I'm even more confused than ever
What I do know, is that it's a 57 replica, and it is in original condition, never changed. I guess I'll take stratman323's word that it doesn't really matter, and just enjoy it for whatever it is
I completely agree with both sentiments! Tokai probably didn't even think anyone would care much, especially all these years later.
It's a lovely-looking guitar @Anderoid78, and I'm pretty certain it is what is was sold to you as, give-or-take 12 months. A friend of mine had a similar one in blue that he bought around that time, and it was a great guitar. I know how much guitars cost in your country, so I hope you keep it for many years to come, until the day when you start to think you got it 'cheap'! It certainly looks like a keeper.
Welcome to the wonderfull world of Tokais!
Hence the 5 digit neck plate number.
So these are the same guitars that they made from 2010 with no serial numbers at all? So they have come to their senses at last?
Fender shaped headstock, I assume?
Not the Teles? I had this one for a while, sold it to a (former) ST member.
I assume the (newer) TTE models also have the 'correct' headstock shape, but I haven't seen one in person yet.
Very nice looking Breezy, by the way.
PS is that the 2010 model? The one without serial number?
Yes it is. It was great, but so similar to my 1980 TE70. Since that older one had a very slight edge (the neck was marginally slimmer), I had to let the new one go. But it was very close indeed to the one from Tokai's so called "golden age". No significant change in quality, despite what some people claim.
I was watching some you tube vids and found a 1976 all original Fender Strat up against an all original Tokai Silver Star SS-38.
Which one do you guys prefer.....I know the one i would choose!!!
Hands down the cream coloured Tokai . Not only the best colour ever for a strat but it sounded awesome!
Asking us, here at the Tokai club.........not fair to the Fender!