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Tokai's Mystery Box

Discussion in 'Other Guitar Discussion' started by felis, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    So here it is :whistling:
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    (big thanks to @Thrup'ny Bit and @Will Lefeurve for presenting the idea and giving the impulse. :D ;) :thumb:)

    This thread is meant to try to bundle/list Tokai related anomalies, and maybe solve a few while we're at it!
     
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  2. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Okay, I'll start.

    On top of my list, this letter;
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    There are at least 2 pages, where/who has the second (or more) pages?
     
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  3. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Mystery #2

    - are there 2 types of 'E's, type A (hand made exact alloy reproduction of a '54 single coil), type B (production model of the same model), or are these the 'E' and 'U' designations?
     
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  4. Neil.C

    Neil.C Most Honored Senior Member

    Mar 3, 2012
    Surrey, England
    I know very little about Tokai but await further revelations with interest.
     
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  5. jofish

    jofish Strat-O-Master

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    Aug 28, 2015
    Hull, UK
    Hopefully this is going to turn into a juicy thread :D
     
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  6. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Mystery #3

    - what's the story behind the "Golden Era" reissue models?


    So there are my top 3 mysteries, I'll give it a pause, for now :whistling:.

    And as @jofish so nicely puts it :thumb:, let's make this a juicy one. :D ;)
     
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  7. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    I've e-mailed Scooby Doo and the gang, but they may be a while. We may have to investigate ourselves. :sneaky:
     
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  8. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Re: the letter to Mr. Fender.



    :D:D:D

    And meanwhile, I contacted (mailed) the source who provided the first page, to hear he'd gotten hold of those other pages?
     
  9. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    It's still a mystery to me...
    What, if anything is the significance of any of this?
    Seems sorta like an inside joke.
     
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  10. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Try to find answers/look for facts, rather than going with years of assumptions.


    No, sincere.
     
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  11. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    C'mon
    It's Sunday/Cocktail day..
    Turn loose...
     
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  12. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    I'm not that smart, you'll have to put a smiley behind......before I get it. :oops: :D ;)
     
  13. Rob Moreno

    Rob Moreno Strat-O-Master

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    May 28, 2017
    Tokyo
    Very cool! Is this letter something you have physically or did you find it on the web?
     
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  14. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    From the web (posted by a fellow member on TF).
     
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  15. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    We're not going to solve any mystery this way! :confused::D
     
  16. jofish

    jofish Strat-O-Master

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    Aug 28, 2015
    Hull, UK
    Problem is, you're the Tokai expert here - we're the ones who should be asking you questions, we know nothing :D :D

    Out of interest (this isn't really a mystery, just an easy question for you, I'm sure), I see that the letter you posted above has the Tokai logo that you'd see on mid-80s Goldstars, Breezys etc.

    Was this the general company logo even pre-82 (when the letter is dated) and the 'spaghetti' logo just their own sneaky homage to Fender? Hope that makes sense, maybe a stupid question...
     
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  17. felis

    felis Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 27, 2013
    Antwerp/Belgium
    Thanks, but there are much more knowledgeable, more (decades) Tokai experienced people than me around. :thumb:

    Most of what I know, I've read on the web/forums or learned from friends. :oops: :D



    This is what I see on the catalog covers, but they may have well used both logos side by side?;)


    Here, they used a sort of 'spaghetti' logo; 1982 ←

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    The 'letter's' logo; 1987→

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  18. jofish

    jofish Strat-O-Master

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    Aug 28, 2015
    Hull, UK
    That's interesting, thanks!

    I've never seen the '82 logo you posted before. Part of the reason I ask is because my 81 Springy still has the spaghetti logo and I wondered if the change to the other one was part of a wider shift.

    Cheers!
     
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  19. Neil.C

    Neil.C Most Honored Senior Member

    Mar 3, 2012
    Surrey, England
    Out of interest and playing devils advocate, are you sure that letter is authentic?

    What is its provenance?

    Stuff like that is very easy to fake.
     
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