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Tone IS NOT in your hands......

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by mshivy, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. mshivy

    mshivy Most Honored Senior Member

    The whole " Tone is in the hands" thing is really a crock.
    Equipment makes sound, not your hands. Don't believe me? Try making your "tone" with no equipment.

    Of course, some people get on their high horse and post trite 3rd grade sayings like " if you can't play equipment won't help" or " a good player can make cheap gear sound good" Duh. Thank you for your pearls of wisdom, Captain Obvious.
    That doesn't change the fact that different guitars and amps can SOUND different.

    I cannot understand how any reasonable adult capable of critical thinking would say
    "Sound is in the hands"
    No, it's not.

    Stevie Ray Vaughn used a Tube Screamer- why??? Why didn't he just use his hands to add extra gain????
    Is a Benedetto arch top with a floating Dearmond thru a Polytone going to be capable of playing Death Metal????
    Can your hands do that????

    Example 1:

    This is me playing the Crazy Train solo ( which a million people on YouTube play better than me)
    First is with a single coil MIM- 2nd is a partscaster with a DiMarzio PAF.

    The guitars sound different - and that SOUND has absolute nothing to do with my hands.



     

  2. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    May 21, 2010
    In my own little world
    Try making your tone with no hands.
     

  3. Chont

    Chont Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 25, 2012
    Pennsylvania
    Damn dude... you really ripped those out.

    Amazing.

    I agree... i think it can maybe be said that Timbre is in the hands and your abilities help to bring out a guitars “voice” but you still need certain tools for certain applications. Can’t change a tire with a screwdriver.
     

  4. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    Im gonna stick around just to see how long this thread lasts. Im making popcorn.
     

  5. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Certified Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    May 21, 2010
    In my own little world
    deckchair.jpg
     
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  6. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London
    Sounds like someone just winded you up...
    You play the "crazy train" very well.

    However I think you're just angry today.
     
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  7. Chont

    Chont Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 25, 2012
    Pennsylvania
    If you use pedals then tone is in your feet
     

  8. Will Lefeurve

    Will Lefeurve Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 1, 2016
    England & France
    Tone IS NOT in your hands...... :eek::rolleyes:








    --------------------------------->;):whistling::D
     

  9. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    Pop an extra bag please; I'll be joining you. I'll bring the beer.
     

  10. mshivy

    mshivy Most Honored Senior Member

    Not really angry, I just think the whole argument is silly.
    Who doesn't wish they had better gear?
    And thank you.
     

  11. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    Please bring grolsh....I need new straploks. I have 5 strats so.....
     

  12. heltershelton

    heltershelton ROCKIN FOREVER Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jun 5, 2013
    Not Florida
    Will better gear make a beginner sound better? It is my OPINION that it will not. Will better gear make a seasoned veteran sound better? Again, my opinion is that it might.
     

  13. skypeace

    skypeace Sky Pilot Strat-Talk Supporter

    372
    Mar 10, 2017
    Connecticut
    Tone is everywhere, it is that all encompassing entity that rises eternal from all matter. Tone, we salute you, we praise you, we bow down to you, we submit. Smash a rock, break an egg, Tone!

    Where exactly do you come from? Beyond fathomable! :rolleyes:
     

  14. mshivy

    mshivy Most Honored Senior Member

    Kelly, you're a damn good player. Please give your opinion - I know you understand my point.
    Edit -
    Ok I saw you just did. Thx bro-
     

  15. Metternich

    Metternich Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    26
    11
    Jul 13, 2017
    Junin, Buenos Aires, Argentina
    I'd say the overwhelming majority of your tone is in your hands, as, again, the overwhelming majority of the people who buy records and go to concerts can't tell the difference between a cheap guitar and a custom shop guitar. The foundation of tone is in the player's hands and gear is absolutely secondary.
     
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  16. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    No Kelly, I said I'd bring beer...
     

  17. Inverness

    Inverness Senior Stratmaster

    Dec 24, 2013
    Salt Lake City
    Tone is on my knobs, 2 of them. It says so right there! Other knobs that don't say tone just don't have it, so I don't know there.;)
     

  18. Yves

    Yves Senior Stratmaster

    Jan 2, 2016
    London
    We just had a post yesterday touching on the subject...erm ...in a slightly more gentle approach.
    So what's your take on that one for example?
    The guy plays clean there, and...I'd say his plucking technique is what drives his "tone".
     
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  20. rcboals

    rcboals Strat-Talk Member

    42
    Nov 14, 2010
    Springfield, Oregon
    Glad you were able to unload and get that burr under saddle out. :) You are correct, I agree.

    I think people say "tone is in the hands" like they say things like "it is what it is", "have a nice day", "how are you doing", etc. etc. etc. Many things we say is said without any real thought. The gear does make the tone like you say, but the talent makes the music. :)