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Treble bleed or Fezz Parka on strat?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by tw0409, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    HI....
    I don't know if this has been over-discussed before. I am pretty new to the world of tone..... Just about to wire a new strat pickguard and I am struggling between Fezz parka wiring and Treble bleed (I already ordered a kit--0.0012uf cap and 150K resistor...)

    Which one is more natural/better??? I just want to know the general concensus.

    Also, if I were to use treble bleed...series or parallel?
     
  2. sjtalon

    sjtalon Senior Stratmaster

    I would say the Fezz is more natural.

    Treble bleed is parallel.
     
  3. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    I have seen people do series as well... what gives??
     
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  5. louis cyfer

    louis cyfer i know nothing

    Oct 2, 2010
    arcadia
    with the treble bleed, the highs stay, but you lose low end as you roll back the volume, so it sounds like you are actually getting brighter. with the fezz parka you retain both the low and the high end. it sound like the exact same tone, just less of it as you roll back. each different treble bleed has a draw back, there are a lot of different ones.
     
  6. Vogelsong

    Vogelsong Strat-Talk Member

    30
    Jun 16, 2011
    Harrsiburg, PA
    My main strats are G&L's and they come with treble and bass cut from the factory. I love them both but I did end up cutting the treble bright cap from the volume pot on both as it just seemed un-natural sounding to me when I rolled the volume off.

    It changed the overall tone of the guitar, it seemed to calm it down. I never ran the treble above 3 because it was so bright. Now I have use of the whole range and it doesn't get ice picky. I would copy this circuit minus the bright cap on the volume knob.
     
  7. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    I heard that wiring the treble bleed cap and resistor in series can reduce some of the un-nuatural tone...Is that true?

    So...looks like there is really nothing bad about fezz parka...if so.... dang I just kill a $5 bill...:neutral:
     
  8. Vintage59

    Vintage59 Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 31, 2010
    Lost Angeles
  9. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    a red hat and a green coat?
     
  10. sjtalon

    sjtalon Senior Stratmaster

    ah, that's a Fez.......................................and a Parka

    :)
     
  11. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    O..........kay..

    Does any one have a fezz wiring diagram for strat?
     
  12. stratphobic

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    Jan 14, 2011
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  13. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    thanks man... so fezz wiring is basically 50s wiring??
     
  14. stratphobic

    stratphobic -----------------------

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    it's one in the same
     
  15. sjtalon

    sjtalon Senior Stratmaster

    50's wiring mod-Ted Greene-Fezz Parka

    same deal
     
  16. Vintage59

    Vintage59 Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 31, 2010
    Lost Angeles
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    ding! ding! ding! :)
     
  17. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    is the blender pot required for it to work perfectly?

    also.... I am looking at both diagrams given above.... are they different?
     
  18. stratphobic

    stratphobic -----------------------

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    Jan 14, 2011
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    not at all
     
  19. tw0409

    tw0409 Strat-Talk Member

    75
    Jul 11, 2011
    LA
    [​IMG]

    would this be exactly fezz wiring??
     
  20. stratphobic

    stratphobic -----------------------

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    Jan 14, 2011
    Fort Smith, Arkansas
    yeah. that's the same wiring as was in the link i posted. the only thing i would do differently is get rid of the jumper and run the 2nd tone straight to the bridge position and use a .047 cap instead of the .022 that diagram shows.
     

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