Since my earlier post on this thread I lucked into a Traynor YCV20WR. It's one with the older logo, and has the Brit greenback rather then the Chinese made version, which I believe they went to to keep costs in check for this model. I agree with all above who touted the accolades of their Traynors. This thing is a gem. Nice to have a little tube amp here again, besides the Excelsior. But, much as I want to say that this will without question become my number one, when I A / B it with the cheapie Princeton 112 Plus, nothing doing for dethroning that fender clean. The long spring reverb, at least for me, sounds a little too all over the place, not that the short Accutronics in the Princeton is super tight, (this is reverb after all I'm on about), but the reverb sound I like better is from the Princeton. I think for the four small amps I have kicking around I'd rate thusly; 1. Fender Frontman 29%, fail This is the older model with the metal grill, not the nicer looking newer one that looks more like a regular Fender amp. The grill rattles a bit too, or it would have been just up over 32% 2. Fender Excelsior - 55%. Nice big open sound from that 15" speaker, but that tremolo should have been a short spring reverb. Nice to have the multiple inputs, but honestly, the guitar and mic which both sound fine going through that speaker individually, are kind of crude sounding together. Maybe if it had a little horn too it would be better. It's a small combo, not a PA system I guess. Loved it when I dragged it home, but does not get used much. 3. The new Traynor - 84%. Looks amazing. Made in Canada (my home country). Great quality British speaker. Nice clear clean, decent dirty and the boost takes it from tush tickling to a spanking with the wooden spoon, ouch, the good kind of ouch some might say, still forming my opinion which will be based on how long it takes for the bruising to subside so I can sit down again. Don't like how you have to pull off the bottom plate to get at the tubes. There are vents up high on the back of the amp to allow for cooling, but after an hour of playing, the screws in the top of the cabinet are hot enough to fry humming bird's eggs on. Some reading I have done says this is common, and they are lava boxes. The Blues Jr I ditched got warm, but never like this. Makes me wonder how long it will be until the wine red tolex starts to discolour and crack. But a heck of a fine amp, despite my concerns and I know I'm just darn picky. 4. Fender Princeton 112 plus. 95%. Made in USA (my other home country). Where did the other 5 points go? I only am detracting some points because despite my trying to be an open minded person, and judge things on their true qualities, provide for a level playing field, I am still, as are lots of us here, victim to the belief that if it does not have tubes, well, it just can't be any good. So really the 5 points should be deducted from myself and not the amp for allowing myself to be a victim of hype. Never heard a better sounding amp at any price point. Reverb is perfect for the sound I want to make. The 2 button footswitch does the two things that a 2 button footswitch should do, going between that amazing Fender clean and a very believable and usable dirty, and turn on and off the reverb. Sounds incredible at any volume, and gets very loud. Light weight for toting about, looks like a classic blackface. Effects loop. Everything I want, not a bunch of extra crap I don't. But here's the Traynor, what a looker. Can't go wrong with one of these, especially if you suffer from must-have-tubeitis. Head and shoulders above the Blues Jr. that I dumped. And of course, a photo of the hero, the Princeton 112 Plus, taking a victory lap after being doused with champagne and rose petals after again, crossing the finish line well ahead of the pack.