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Vintage Block - trem arm wobble?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Gypsy Eyes, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Gypsy Eyes

    Gypsy Eyes Strat-O-Master

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    Hiya,

    I just wanted to know if a vintage block would stop trem arm wobble, be it MIM, American Vintage or a squier upgrade. Thanks
     
  2. sevycat

    sevycat Custom Shop Cat Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Maybe a trem arm spring would help offset the wobble you describe. vintage stainless steel block would result in more sustain vs. a cast metal block.
     
  3. Gypsy Eyes

    Gypsy Eyes Strat-O-Master

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    Thankyou, very simple answer. The way I like it.

    :)
     
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    sjtalon Senior Stratmaster

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    Teflon (plumbers) tape the arm threads to tighten.
     
  6. Bendub

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    +1

    The issue is loose tolerances on the machined threads. So you need to make the threads on the bar "bigger" to fill the space.

    Changing the block won't have any effect unless the threads in the new block are tapped (threaded) smaller than the old block.... However the bar is the one most likely to vary as it was machined, and the block was tapped, so it will be a more consistent size.

    Teflon on the bar is the cheapest and most effective fix.

    The spring will force the bar up causing pressure on the threads. If strong enough a spring you won't feel wobble.
    Not so short an explanation but hopefully helpful none the less!
     
  7. Gypsy Eyes

    Gypsy Eyes Strat-O-Master

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    I understand, that's what I mean, is the vintage bridge's bar machined properly?
     
  8. Ethan

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    Blocks wear out, dude. It's happened with every tremolo I have had.

    I say go for a Callaham block. They're designed so that the arm never wobbles, and I've heard there are huge tonal improvements upon installing. I really want one for myself :)

    Callaham Vintage Guitars and Parts (Tremolo Blocks)
     
  9. Bendub

    Bendub Strat-O-Master

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    Properly, yes. It is machined within international standards for that class of fit.

    Perfectly, no. Costs would go through the roof. A more expensive assembly would possibly include a higher class thread, but ultimately you would want to look at the above mentioned fixes, or a different style that doesn't thread in. Ive never tried the snap in kind but if done right they should be real snug.

    I bet Callaham has it all figured out. How much do you want to spend is the question.
     
  10. Strat-Man-Do

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    Gotoh makes a decent Vintage style block.bridge if you don't want to spring for Callaham money.
     
  11. Bendub

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    Oh yeah, mim bars wobble too
     
  12. Vintage59

    Vintage59 Senior Stratmaster

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    +1. You get what you pay for. Callahams are high quality made to last. You and your strat are worth it.
     
  13. Tele like it is

    Tele like it is Left is right! Strat-Talk Supporter

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    They all do wobble, and the more you work them, the more they will loosen up.

    Cheap fix: Teflon tape as said above.
    Expensive fix: Callaham block (also sounds better)
     
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    I really hate threaded tremo arms because of this.
     
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    I dis-like wilkinson and prs even more so.
     
  16. Gypsy Eyes

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    Tbh, it's not really that annoying, It gets insanely tight to screw in just as it strats to not wobble, I'll try some grease on the threads.

    Thanks

    EDIT: Better now!!
     
  17. Bendub

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    Careful, that's how you strip the threads...

    and grease? seriously? Grease is a lubricant... What kind of strange grease do you use?
     
  18. Rogue Bohemian

    Rogue Bohemian what? WHAT????? Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I recommend bacon grease. It will help you get some tasty licks.:D
     
  19. Gypsy Eyes

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    Metal grease.

    I know, but i meant that the threads may be dirty and it might get tighter sooner ? :neutral:
    I cleaned the bar and tried to wipe the threads on the bridge before hand.

    It's Ok now though :)

    Anyway, I've also noticed lately, before and after I sorted the whammy bar that the bridge makes a low squeak if you press it in really slowly (reverberates in the springs too), I've also cut part of the pg out as it used to rub, I should cut a little bit more out to be sure but I took the two bottom screws out, jammed screwdriver under them and it still squeaks :rolleyes:

    It's not the pickguard then...

    thanks:)
     
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    +1

    Callaham's can be hurt or killed by abuse and that's about it. It isn't gonna wobble the way I was taught to use the arm.

    The current type of Glendale Chimemaster has a Floyd type arm and it will not wobble either. The early prototype (10-32 arm into massive brass block) was by comparison born for failure.

    The think the Gotoh is worth investigating too. I skipped over it but it is worth checking out.

    Oh, and of course the G + L dual fulcrum tremolo, whether new or old, import or domestic is as bulletproof as you can get.
     
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