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Vintage bridge saddle screws

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Fendrix, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    OK, I'm daft, but I've replaced mine with chrome, panhead bolts. Easy to adjust and perfectly smooth tops.
     
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  2. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    Grub screws in the UK
     
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  3. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    Hardware stores... I haven't seen one of those for about thirty years. ;)
     

  4. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    For UK readers there's a Top Gear joke in there somewhere!
     
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  5. Ronkirn

    Ronkirn Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    72
    May 26, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Yeah, sounds daft to me. . . like whoever heard of doing something as "off the wall" as adapting... Stranger than a Kitty Cat Water Ballet school..:p

    don't you know that unless you use genuine authentic, steeped in vintage mojo and cryogenically treated original screws, your tone is gonna suck...:D

    rk
     
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  6. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    Oh plek. That's where I've been going wrong for the last 50 years... :D
     

  7. Stormy Monday

    Stormy Monday OMG At the end of the cul-de-sac Strat-Talk Supporter

    pics
     
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  8. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    I was in one today. But I am in a remote part of Wales this week.
     
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  9. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    58
    Apr 21, 2010
    London, UK
    Presumably Leo. We have seen eBay listings posted on here for genuine pre-CBS Fender neck shims. o_O
     
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  10. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    I'd best not mention the original pre-CBS masking tape for the pickup wires then... o_O
     

  11. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
    Hope you remembered your wellies... ;)
     

  12. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    Never thought of that! I'll replace them and do a comparison under strict laboratory conditions immediately. I am truly sorry for publishing this stupid idea, if anyone has even thought about doing it please stop now! Do you know what? I didn't even check on the formula of the metal used. Jeez, I'm some kind of idiot!
     
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  13. Wrighty

    Wrighty Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2013
    Harlow, Essex, UK
    too embarrassed! No, really, guitar's away at the moment.
     

  14. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    59
    May 21, 2010
    Sheffield, UK
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  15. artgtr

    artgtr Senior Stratmaster

    Aug 18, 2013
    WURTSBORO, NY
    I had purchased a set of Highwood Vintage Saddles from the Netherlands, took about 2 months to receive them & $65.00 / I’m in NY. not sure which Strat I have they will go on, I’m sure I’ll figure it out. Kind of lost the thread on which someone mentioned these.
    I finally got them! Supposedly no sharp screw heads.
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    Ok let everyone know how it works out!
     
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  16. Marcel

    Marcel Strat-Talk Member

    31
    Feb 15, 2009
    The Netherlands
    Please do. Any idea on why these took so long to get to you? Customs maybe? Thanks.
     

  17. pumpkin

    pumpkin Strat-Talker

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    131
    Aug 5, 2017
    Richmond VA
    ....well put. The neck to body angle may be perfect and the saddle screws simply too long because that is what is guaranteed to fit in the old bent steel saddles. It's always about speed and money in a factory.
     

  18. pumpkin

    pumpkin Strat-Talker

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    131
    Aug 5, 2017
    Richmond VA
    ....what difference would it make if somebody knew the answer ? Every Strat is not the same and the setup and action will be a bit different for each. Asking rhetorical questions with no need for an answer is wasting time. Think it through.
     

  19. pumpkin

    pumpkin Strat-Talker

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    131
    Aug 5, 2017
    Richmond VA
    2/14/18 : I got a metric set of 12 saddle height adjustment screws for a Korea-made Samick copy of the Valley Arts Strat. I figured a Korea guitar from Samick would use MM screws and I was right. 6MM length and 3MM diameter outside is what it took. The 10MM length also had 3MM diameter. The shorter ones from Monster Bolts in the USA are cheap and sunken below the top of all saddles allow the saddle height to be correct so no neck pocket shim is needed. I believe USA Fenders use 4-40 Allen head screws for this and have a slightly coarser thread.
     

  20. I had the same problem with one of my Teles. It has the 6 individual barrel saddles (sorry, I know that's blasphemy but I have intonation-OCD) and the grub screws stuck out way too much. Too risky to play live: butterscotch looks much nicer without the blood-spatters!

    Because they're imperial sizes and I'm UK based I figured it would be a load of faff to try to buy shorter ones. So, off to the workbench we go:

    • Measure everything up, including saddle heights, and decide how long you want each screw to be.
    • Take each screw in turn and clamp it in a metal bench vice (taking care not to damage the threads with too much pressure, obviously).
    • Use a dremmel to grind/cut the screw down to size. Keep the speed to no more than about 15 to avoid that burning smell that tells you something bad's about to happen.
    • Ensure the piece you take off is at the bottom end and not the end where the allen/hex key gets inserted (sounds obvious I know).
    • Then, use a small-grained file to get rid of any unwanted burrs at the bottom end of the screw and generally smooth it off so it sits nicely on the bridge plate.
    • Reinsert the screws and adjust back to the saddle heights you measured in the first place.

    Results:

    • No more unnecessary flesh-wounds.
    • Guitar stays its original colour.
    • Hours of palm-muting joy.
    • All is right with the world.