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"Vintage Feel" or "Vintage Sound": which do you choose?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by enchantpth44, Sep 14, 2018.

Which is your preferred combo?

  1. Vintage Feel/Personalized (Modern) Sound

    3 vote(s)
    6.5%
  2. Vintage Sound/Personalized (Modern) Feel

    17 vote(s)
    37.0%
  3. Vintage Feel/Vintage Sound

    18 vote(s)
    39.1%
  4. I am not entirely sure.....

    8 vote(s)
    17.4%
  5. Personalized sound/Peronalized Feel

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Believer7713

    Believer7713 Senior Stratmaster Silver Member

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    I guess I would have to be pt on this one. I don't care fir vintage feel at all. I prefer a flatter fret fretboard and favor a compound radius of 12-16 with a pencil thin modern C profile. 7.25 with a V of any kind just doesn't feel right to me. I also like the tallest fattest frets I can get because I play with a fairly light touch and they simulate a scalloped fretboard keeping my fingers off of the board itself. As far as p'ups go, my favorite guitars have actives in them... either EMGs (85/60) (89/SA/SA) or Seymour Duncan AHB-1 Blackouts.
     
  2. Tone Guru

    Tone Guru Senior Stratmaster

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    I was referring to American cars.
    Being from North America I presumed you might get the analogy.
     
  3. enchantpth44

    enchantpth44 Strat-Talker

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    I was referring to 50s era Ferraris. :):thumb: My N/A means Not Applicable, I'm Canadian though
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  4. Seymour Duncan

    Seymour Duncan Senior Stratmaster

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    I am all for personalized everything. I am not trying to replicate sounds or feel or anything like that.
     
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  5. Raimonds

    Raimonds Senior Stratmaster

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    Unfortunately my english is not so good and I cant find suitable word for old, grumpy man :)
     
  6. trapdoor2

    trapdoor2 Senior Stratmaster

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    I'm very much about feel and "the look". Sound? Meh, I am going to sound like me and whatever amp I choose.

    So, for my Strat build, I went "personalized" with a compound radius neck because I like the one on my hot-rod banjo. HSS because that's what I wanted. Modern locking tuners. Modern electronics, etc. Nothing in the build had 'vintage' intent.

    My Tele build was similar. Personalized all the way.

    For the current Esquire build, I wanted it to look the part: vintage tuners, slot-head screws, bakelite blackface PG, etc. However, I went with a 10" radius on the neck...'cause the 7.25" radius feels odd to me and I couldn't find a 12" to suit me. I also went with a noiseless (Mojotone "Quiet Coil") Broadcaster pickup, Eldred mod. wiring, etc.

    The next scheduled build is a mashup (Tele/Jag), vintage isn't part of the concept.

    So, I don't follow black/white choices, every one is going to be a little of each.
     
  7. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Don't worry, you'll be old soon too, it happens more quickly than you can imagine. :)
     
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  8. carver

    carver The East Coast Strangler Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I would choose none.

    because no one puts baby in the corner.
     
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  9. BlurgyWurgyWibble

    BlurgyWurgyWibble Strat-Talker

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    Any standard output strat pickup with alnico slugs and a
    stagger will give you vintage tone.
    Use a low wattage tube amp and a 1x12 celestion speaker of any kind (my preference would be a Creamback 65). Turn the amp up to just before it starts to squeal.
    Use volume control on guitar to clean it up.
    The thinner and nastier the pickups sound the better - the amp and the speaker and your tone control will fill in all the blanks and give you a clean tone with an edge to fall back on.

    For feel: that's personal preference but I'll tell anyone who cares to listen that a near straight neck 7.25" radius board with Fender Vintage Style frets strung up with 10's on a low action and the trem just off the deck will play like butter. Chords = effortless. Barring = effortless. Bending = effortless.

    The narrow nut will let you get your thumb over the top for the Hendrix chords too.

    Everything else is in the man and a few thousand hours of dedicated practice.

    For gigging I set my amp super clean and use an OD-3 set thusly for drive at PA friendly volumes:

    IMG_20180914_175500.jpg

    I still use the volume and tone pots extensively to dial in my stage tone.
     
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  10. stratman323

    stratman323 Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    The word you want is "curmudgeon" :cool:
     
  11. heltershelton

    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

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    i dont try for a vintage anything.
    for instance this tele i have has a 10 to 16 radius, a neck just a little fatter than a modern c, and pretty big frets.
    the pickups are hot as hell too.
     
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  12. Fuzzpop

    Fuzzpop Daft Funk Gold Member

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    Ask Mike Stern...



    Of course that's Danny Gatton/Roy Buchanan's Tele. Got ripped off from Mike at some point.
     
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  13. Raimonds

    Raimonds Senior Stratmaster

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    Thanks, I'll add that to my vocabulary :D
     
  14. Raimonds

    Raimonds Senior Stratmaster

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    I know, yesterday I was like 20-21? :)
     
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    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

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    LMAO .... its obvious you've never driven an American Muscle Car


    But for Strats, I cant bond with the vintage necks. Love the tone of the old Strats, but cant live without a compound radius neck.

    But for my "everyday" guitar, modern feel and tone. Vintage tone is too limiting for me.
     
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  16. Nate D

    Nate D Senior Stratmaster

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    I like a guitar that feels good and sounds good regardless of specs.

    From a visual standpoint I generally like 50’s and 60’s guitars, but I dig modern guitars too... as long as they feel good and sound good.

    I guess I am not entirely sure...

    As @Thrup'ny Bit said, I pretty much sound like me regardless. :)
     
  17. BlurgyWurgyWibble

    BlurgyWurgyWibble Strat-Talker

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    TBH dude has the worst tone I ever heard hehe.
    Also his playing ain't that..
    Wow I'll just show myself the door, eh? :)

    EDIT: Not h8ting the guy at all. Just saying its pretty ordinary stuff and his tone is really 'plug it and get on with it'. Which is cool in its own way and probably was your point.

    You know what I'll just put down the internet and go to bed now.
     
  18. Fuzzpop

    Fuzzpop Daft Funk Gold Member

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    It's fair to hate on that 80s chorus tone he gets. But saying Mike Stern plays "ordinary stuff" is an opinion I haven't heard before. To each his own.

    Miles and Jaco both dug him enough to put him on records. Same with the Brecker Brothers and Billy Cobham and Jim Hall and Dennis Chambers.

    Try this one on for size:

     
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  19. Kester

    Kester Strat-O-Master

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    Exactly, and this doesn't sound too bad to me.
     
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  20. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Return of the Red Helmet Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Or listen to Ted Greene, Ed Bickert, Bill Frisell, Bob Bain, Howard Roberts, Barney Kessel... :)

    Players make the sound.

    The sound of a guitar is most important to me. The rest is personal taste.
     
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