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What do you guys think of this 62 Dakota?

Discussion in 'Pre-CBS Strats (before 1966)' started by Pinkfloyd1312, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Pinkfloyd1312

    Pinkfloyd1312 Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
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    56
    Feb 28, 2016
    St. Louis

  2. blackspider57

    blackspider57 Strat-Talk Member

    53
    Jun 10, 2017
    Great Falls Montana
    $32000.00 Dollars?
    Too rich for my blood........
     

  3. Nick in Seattle

    Nick in Seattle Strat-Talker

    Age:
    43
    100
    Apr 7, 2016
    Seattle
    Way out of my price range but very cool
     

  4. stratnutz

    stratnutz Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    61
    Apr 10, 2011
    Dallas TX
    His comment "its more of an artwork than an instrument" is interesting
     

  5. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
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  6. Pinkfloyd1312

    Pinkfloyd1312 Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    39
    56
    Feb 28, 2016
    St. Louis
    Yea the price is a bit high but I'm more interested in whether it's legit or not.
     

  7. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    It check's out ,looks legit.
     

  8. Mipstoo

    Mipstoo Strat-Talker

    357
    Mar 18, 2013
    Rockingham Palace
    Everything looks ok but I see some strange things that I would like explained.

    I would like to see better pictures of the neck and dots. All mine are far darker, but it's possible that the neck hasn't been played much up to the higher notes. Neck wear on the back also indicates playing in the lower regions, so it's possible. It's also possible that some dots are newer. Better pictures would tell.

    I'm not 100% that the backplate is original. It could be, if it has stayed in the case since the beginning. But even then I'm not sure.

    If the guitar was played without backplate then the peeling of the finish underneath the backplate could be explained.
    However, the trem springs look very new, especially if the guitar was played without the backplate.

    The neck plate also looks very clean. Not saying it's not original, I would ask pictures from different angles.

    So I'm guessing, some parts have been replaced or restored, however you'd like to call it.

    Titel says 100% complete, which is a correct statement, I wouldn't say 100% original. Different choice of words, different meanings.
    A seller should be 100% correct and honest, I'm under the impression that this one is staged to get top dollar. However, I'm not saying it's not legit but I'm careful when I see things like this.
     
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  9. Bazz Jass

    Bazz Jass Chairman of the Fingerboard Strat-Talk Supporter

    Nov 19, 2014
    Comfy Chair
    Looks like water damage at the back, not buckle wear.....

    Does show off the dowel plugs nicely!
     
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  10. Adam Wolfaardt

    Adam Wolfaardt Strat-Talker

    Age:
    45
    216
    Jan 2, 2017
    France
    I'm having a hard time with the very clean finish on the one side and Rory Gallagher in the back. How can that be? Water damage? The seller would do well to talk about that more
     

  11. Bazz Jass

    Bazz Jass Chairman of the Fingerboard Strat-Talk Supporter

    Nov 19, 2014
    Comfy Chair
    Yes, I've certainly seen water damage like this, even on a guitar I've owned unfortunately. Flooding....guitar was in case lying flat and water got in in such a way that the back of the guitar got wet. Basically the water gets under the finish and it lifts...

    That was my experience anyway - a reissue strat with nitro finish.
     
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  12. Guy Named Sue

    Guy Named Sue Beer me up Scotty Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 11, 2015
    Sweden
    That explains it
     

  13. crashbelt

    crashbelt Strat-Talker

    161
    Feb 27, 2012
    England
    It's great from the front but horrible from the back. Even with a plausible explanation of the discrepancy I wouldn't consider this at half the asking price!
     

  14. Ebidis

    Ebidis Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    51
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    I think they're asking $28,000 too much.

    Should the entire neck pocket be painted like that? Could it be a refin?
     
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  15. Wayne D.

    Wayne D. Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 28, 2009
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    I believe you are correct in the water damage. With all the hardware original, but how can saddles and tuners showing corrosion, but the jack, bridge and neck plate look brand new?:confused:
     

  16. libertarian

    libertarian Strat-O-Master

    844
    Dec 26, 2013
    Boston, MA
    I agree that the neck pocket looks suspicious. If I were to guess I'd say older refin with water damage. Still a cool guitar if that's correct but not for that kind of money.
     

  17. Mipstoo

    Mipstoo Strat-Talker

    357
    Mar 18, 2013
    Rockingham Palace
    Up to end of 1962 the neck pocket was entirely painted. That is not something that sets of my alarm.
     
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  18. libertarian

    libertarian Strat-O-Master

    844
    Dec 26, 2013
    Boston, MA
    Hm. Did not know that. I was thinking back to when I was looking into 63s and they come with "paint stick" marks.
     

  19. Mipstoo

    Mipstoo Strat-Talker

    357
    Mar 18, 2013
    Rockingham Palace
    We're all here to discuss and learn about these beauties... :thumb:
     

  20. guitar1981

    guitar1981 Strat-Talker

    121
    Sep 19, 2015
    Hollywood, Ca
    Looks like an honest guitar with some moisture damage.