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Which amp for home play of SRV, Clapton, Dire Straits, Hendrix?

Discussion in 'Amp Input - Normal or Bright' started by ClosetSciFiGeek, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. ClosetSciFiGeek

    ClosetSciFiGeek Strat-Talk Member

    Jul 30, 2013
    Eastern Seaboard
    Problem: I can't get clean enough, loud enough with my current amp.

    Been playing through a Blackstar HT-1R Metal on the clean channel in a largeish finished room over the garage. I am playing an Elite Fender Strat. I am a transplanted classical guitar player so, predictably, I gravitate toward cleaner amp sounds. My little 1 watt amp got pretty decent clean sounds, especially with an EHX Soul Food set up as a clean boost with the volume at 12 o'clock and the gain at minimum with my former lower output pickup's in my Classic Vibe 60's Strat with GFS '59 professional pickups. My new Elite Strat has hotter pickup's and I can't get clean enough loud enough.

    What would you folks recommend for playing SRV, Clapton, Dire Straits, Hendrix, and Pink Floyd stuff?

    I am open minded and have pedals for reverb, delay, and overdrive so the amp doesn't necessarily have to do those things on its own. I would like to be able to have enough clean headroom to play crystal clean stuff like, "Lenny", but not blow me out of the room when I want to get some edge of breakup stuff.

  2. gibsonsmu

    gibsonsmu Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 16, 2015
    5f1 champ (perhaps with a 10" speaker) or 5e3 deluxe, although the latter can get loud
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  3. guitarmikey

    guitarmikey Strat-Talker

    Jan 10, 2013
    Bucharest - RO

  4. tealsixtysix

    tealsixtysix Senior Stratmaster

    Aug 30, 2015
    Massachusetts USA

  5. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Get a 12" extension cab, load it with a very efficient speaker, like a Red Fang or Celestion Blue/Gold. Then use the amp you have. :D

  6. ClosetSciFiGeek

    ClosetSciFiGeek Strat-Talk Member

    Jul 30, 2013
    Eastern Seaboard
    Should've put that out. I run the Blackstar into a closed back Eminence V128 12" cabinet

  7. Groovey

    Groovey Senior Stratmaster

    Nov 17, 2016
    NC. USA
    Looks like your heading into the +50 watt range. ie.75 -100

  8. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Then you're there as far as efficient goes. That leaves the amp.

    Try it with the gain all the way down and the volume cranked. Bring up the gain. Is it cleaner this way? If not reverse it. Gain cranked volume down. Then bring up the volume. Make sure the od button is off.
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  9. Folk_Hogan

    Folk_Hogan Senior Stratmaster

    Mar 7, 2016
    Los Angeles
    I too am into Fender clean tones.

    Check out a vintage Musicman HD amp, there's a few different versions, tons of clean headroom and very affordable.

    Nothing below a twin gets there for me, and yet a twin seems like way too much amp.

    Sacreligious content ahead----

    If you're not afraid of going full on solid state I love playing through Roland Jazz Chorus', there are two new smaller versions as well. (I'm very into Chorus).

    Lastly, if it's truly just home use, I practice with a new Fender GT mustang 40. Has every preset you'd ever need, is cheap, and actually sounds good..

    I'm pretty much a vintage Fender purist but I love the Musicmans and Jazz Chorus'...
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  10. LeicaBoss

    LeicaBoss Strat-O-Master Strat-Talk Supporter

    Sep 4, 2015
    New Jersey
    I'm not being cheeky - this can be very very useful. For home playing and recording (i.e. low volume) - it's really hard to beat. (and I still love tube amps)


  11. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Also...clean (to me) means no gizmos. No distortion boxes, boosts etc. Just the guitar, amp, and any reverb/delay/time-based effect.

  12. stevierayfan91

    stevierayfan91 Dog Whisperer. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Feb 20, 2011
    hi, buddy
    have you gotten to play through vintage Princetone Reverb and vintage MusicMan HD amp side by side?

    i ask because am saving for nicer amp for my birthday this year.

  13. ClosetSciFiGeek

    ClosetSciFiGeek Strat-Talk Member

    Jul 30, 2013
    Eastern Seaboard
    So far the Princeton Reverb Reissue seems like it is winning the battle for me. I have to admit I am predisposed to this model. I used to have a Fender Mustang III, but it was like overload setting it up. That is why I play a lot of steel string and classical. I just pick it up and rip it. Less is more to me so the Princeton appeals more than the ultimately though tweakable modeling amps, even though they sound pretty good. About the Princetons which one? The '68 Custom or the '65? I am thinking the '65. They also have an FSR with a 12" that sounds even better.
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2017

  14. didger

    didger Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 5, 2014
    Salt Lake City
    Another vote for the Princeton Reverb. I can play quiet enough at home and I get compliments on my tone at gigs all the time. Even outdoors.

  15. ClosetSciFiGeek

    ClosetSciFiGeek Strat-Talk Member

    Jul 30, 2013
    Eastern Seaboard
    Looks like I have to liquidate my travel claim from my last business trip and go play some Princetons and decide which one. Thanks for the thoughtful inputs.

  16. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

    Jan 12, 2016
    Lil' Rhody
    My recommendation is the Bugera V22.
    Great sounding, affordable, all tube, two channel amp.
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  17. Ecosse

    Ecosse Strat-Talk Member

    Jul 28, 2017
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    I don’t understand the Princeton argument if you want clean and loud? They break up fairly early and aren’t very loud in my experience. I guess you need to try one and see what it does for you. I agree that they’re a great home amp, but only if you want a little grit. For clean I think there’s better options. My home amp is a twin so take what I say with a grain of salt.

  18. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    See bold above. Not looking for gig volume, just louder and clean at home. A Champ can do that. A Princeton Reverb will do it too. I think he can get there with the amp he has by turning some knobs. But new amps are fun. :D
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2017

  19. Stratoskater

    Stratoskater Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 8, 2011
    Raleigh NC
    You and littletimmy gonna get along great man!
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