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why and how could a mim become dull ?

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  1. drugo

    drugo Strat-Talker

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    Hi

    may i know why and how could a mim after less then 1 year become dull?

    when i bught it , it was bright ,even with flat amp
    it came with 44/09 floating bridge and springs at V

    after few days (after i bought it) and i changed to d'addario 46/10 and it was bright (i guess the ernie ball are even brigheter )

    i have 't change the setup or action or relief but the guitar become dull mostly on low E , A and E

    to have the same sound now i have to switch to neck pick up + center pick up

    is it weird for me
    yesterday i have docked the bridge adding 2 springs , same sound
    i have tried other amp , only some old valve marshall and some feder amp with 2 knobs mid/treble and bass/treble sounds better

    my friend strato usa (i guess it uses texas special) it amazing bright even more a normal fender strato
    any ideas?
    any feedback are wellcome

    thanks
     
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    sadmoodyfrazier Strat-Talker

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    Did you do a good setup? If not, you should.
     
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    A few ideas:


    Are you playing at much different volume levels [amps change freq. response with volume]?
    Are you using more/less guitar volume, with less/more amp volume [see #1]?
    Have you added any pedals or effects?
    Have you checked that the neck, bridge, tuners, parts are loose and need tightening?
    Have you changed rooms, added furniture, changed amp angle, using an amp stand?
    Have you checked your hearing?

    It might be the guitar, it might be your amp(s), it might be the room, or it might be your hearing. Its most likely the volume and tone settings on your guitar and amp are in a muddy range, but weren't before. I've got two tele's, one is way brighter than the other. Each requires a different volume/volume setting with an amp to avoid being brittle/muddy.
     
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    This may seem a silly question but, have you changed strings since the initial switch to the D'Addarios?
     
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    Yes when did you last change strings??
     
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    Have you changed the jack lead?
     
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  7. drugo

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    hi
    i guess so , how i have a docked bridge and the right relief
    thanks
    hi
    i have tried different volume levels , but the low strings sound like a les paul

    i have always all me guitar knob at max

    no
    clean sound guitar -> amp (shield cable)

    yes only the 6 scews of the bridge are not tighten because i was used to play with a fluttuant bridge , i docked yesterday

    no it's the same room ,the amp is in the same position
    i have a very good hearing , today i tried several stratocaster player and each sounds different

    in case it's the guitar , it's gone , i mean it will never come back brighter

    hi
    i changed strings the second or 3 days after i bought , it came with 44/09 and i changed to 46-10 d'addario , i change strings almost very month
    i changed yesterday
    thanks

    no , but it's new , less then 1 year
    thanks
     
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    jfgesquire Strat-Talk Member

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    Usually strings are either 09-42 or 10-46. 44 is not typical where I buy strings.

    If the nut is cut for a thinner gauge string, a heavier string may not seat properly in the nut slot. The issue may not just be the width of the slot, but with any elevation slope or curve going from the fretboard side to the tuning peg side. The string may not be making good flat contact with good down-force on the nut.

    Personally I think electric guitars should all have a zero fret.
     
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  9. Sonic Les

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    Might be faulty tone capacitor not filtering the lows out . Might be impedance problem from guitar cable or patch lead cutting the highs , Try a good buffer pedal at the end of the effects to see if there is any improvement . Are you using a very long guitar cable . Also a dry solder joint inside guitar may cause same problem .
     
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    hi
    about the faulty tone capacitor is a good idea!
    i use a 6 meters shield cable
    another good idead/feedbacks but how can i know if the solder is dry?
    and about
    i did not understand it ,what does it mean should i use some effects and what is it a buffer pedal (i googled but i got general picture of many different pedals)

    thanks
     
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    Buffers are built into many effects pedals to keep the impedance ballanced . A Tube Screamer is one pedal with a good inbuilt Buffer , True Bypass pedals have become all the rage these days but impedance problems can still happen with them .
    Dry solder joints are hard to spot , Take the whole scratch plate assembly to an electrition and let him reflow all the solder joints .
     
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    @Yves @Sonic Les
    hi
    do you know i own a guitar ,not a strato , it had a very dull sound , changed cable and solder , now it's amazing bright ,but it was a 10 years old guitar
    thanks

    hi
    but could be the guitar? i mean it could be a "bad copy" guitar or?
    today in a store i played lots of strato ,all sounds differents , all with their bloody 42/09 fender strings
    i have googled a lot , and there are a lot of people complain about their dull guitar some fix it replacing the tremolo block
    thanks
     
  13. Sonic Les

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    Check the ceramic magnets on the bottom of the pickups , Seen pictures on here where they have become unglued and moved position .
     
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    Sonic Les Strat-Talk Member

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    MiM trem blocks are monkey metal and USA Trem blocks are steel but the difference in sound is usually very small . are the trem block screws tight .
     
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    hi
    i will take some pictures
    @Sonic Les Might I ask did or do you own a dull strato and was you able to fix it?
    thanks
     
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    If this guitar is less than a year old, it’s components are on pare with the US models so it’s not likely to be a failure of a pickup, bridge material or other major component.

    I would try another patch cord. 6 meters is 20 feet and that’s a lengthy cable. I’ve got several patch cables that I often use for testing. In fact, just yesterday, I resoldered a short cable between two pedals because all of a sudden I had a lack of volume and sudden dullness. It was a bad ground on the patch cable.

    It could certainly be a problem with the tone capacitor or the potentiometers but it’s more likely the patch cable.
     
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    For me it would definitely be hearing.....
     
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    hi
    the tone capacitor is cheap ?
    do you think TAD Cap Orange Drop 22nF 600V is a good enough?
    in europe thomann is the best resource to buy online
    thanks

    hi
    what do you mean ?
    do my ears fool me ?
    thanks
     
  19. Sonic Les

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    Try a short guitar lead straight into the amp, If the treble comes back you will have to take pedals and cables out bit by bit to find the culprit .
     
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    Dull... not sure if you are referring to loudness or actuall dull sounding notes. Does this happen on only those open strings you mentioned or is this "dull" sound across the whole fretboard?
     
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