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Would you audition a bass player who doesn't own a bass amp?

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by apm1991, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:25 PM.

  1. apm1991

    apm1991 Strat-O-Master

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    If he was willing to uber or take a cab I'd have no problem... If you were willing to do so I would gladly have you, it shows you are committed... Even if on occasion you needed rides I'd be happy to do so
     
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  2. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    Life isn't fair. And people are the least fair of all. :)
     
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  3. apm1991

    apm1991 Strat-O-Master

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    exactly.. I agree... I wrote in the ad I want someone with a car but I just care they can make it to practice and gigs
     
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  4. Guitarmageddon

    Guitarmageddon Squier-a-holic Strat-Talk Supporter

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    which is why when karma makes the musical projects of the people who excluded me fail, I can't help but laugh
     
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  5. jaybones

    jaybones Most Honored Senior Member

    I wouldn't count him out since he doesn't have an amp. As said, a DI to the board will suffice, and even the smallest bass amps have line outs, so he could get a reasonable amp for not a major financial outlay if he fits in. Heck, he could rent an amp in the beginning.

    Um, yeah. Might have been better in a glam act.
     

  6. apm1991

    apm1991 Strat-O-Master

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    good point
     

  7. fezz parka

    fezz parka The Wiggler of Sticks Strat-Talk Supporter

    That isn't karma, it's the law of averages. 9 out of every 10 bands don't make it past their third gig.:)
     

  8. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    I agree with you on people, life however is what it is. It just happens and all we can do is try to steer it in the direction we want it to go. In the end, we're all just subjects to the whims of wind and waves :)
     
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  9. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

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    My middle/high school band made it to 4 :D
     
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  10. CalicoSkies

    CalicoSkies Senior Stratmaster

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    Does your band play for money? If so, lack of equipment as a deal-breaker seems similar to a company hiring a delivery driver and requiring them to use their own car for deliveries.
     
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  11. Miotch

    Miotch Senior Stratmaster

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    Harder to imagine getting around anywhere I've been in Arizona without access to a car than to play bass through a guitar amp.

    Years ago we auditioned a guy with the coolest high-dollar bass rig I've ever seen, only to sadly discover he was tone deaf. Seriously tone deaf. And couldn't count time either. Just weird.
     
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  12. JustABluesGuy

    JustABluesGuy Strat-O-Master

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    No amp AND no transportation? Yeah, no.

    I am not actually a bass player, but I do own a bass guitar. I once passed an audition as bass player (they were desperate) without any real skills or even my own amp (I used the one at their practice space).

    I did at least drive myself TO the practice space though...
     
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  13. TangerineDog

    TangerineDog Senior Stratmaster

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    It's an audition, not a 3 year contract. Give him the chance.
     
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  14. apm1991

    apm1991 Strat-O-Master

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    right... having transportation, whether it be the bus or whatever, I don't think is too much to ask for
     

  15. apm1991

    apm1991 Strat-O-Master

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    absolutely.. if he can make it to my place
     

  16. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I understand folks saying it's good to give the benefit of the doubt, but let's keep this 100 for a minute:
    1. He's playing through a guitar amp because he doesn't have the proper equipment. Sure, he can DI into the board at a gig, but what about rehearsals? That guitar amp is OK for when he's practicing alone at home, but it'll blow if he tries to keep up with you and a drummer. Part of being a working musician is having the proper tools to do it. Full stop.
    2. He doesn't have transportation. Back in the day when I was auditioning lead guitarists, I'd always ask them what car they had; I really didn't care, this was actually a roundabout way of making sure they had one. They need to be able to, reliably, get themselves and their gear to rehearsals and gigs. I grew up in Phoenix, I know that public transportation won't cut it there the way it would somewhere like NYC or the big cities in Europe. It just won't. There are circumstances sometimes, I get that, but in general you need to be assured that they have transportation handled, which in my mind means they control it, not their mom, not their girlfriend, not their roommate. You don't want hangers-on at rehearsals, that just detracts from the work, and let's be real: it'll happen twice, and whoever they were relying on for the lift won't be willing any longer, and they'll
    3. Be asking you, which he already did.
    We've gotten to strike 3 already. This is showing all the signs of someone who isn't serious and doesn't have their crap together, and if you're in a band with them, their drama becomes your drama. I'd pass.
     
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  17. Kstu

    Kstu Strat-Talker

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    I had a couple of similar scenarios with a bass players. One was good but did not have gear because he had a problem with drugs and alcohol and would sell everything. The other just got interested in playing again at the offer as he was someone we knew from our past. Sometimes there is logic with the situation. I would give him/her a shot. Couldn't hurt.
     
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  18. moullineaux

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    I get the comment about being a session player with no car, obviously you have the rep and skills to be called upon to do a good job or you wouldn’t be getting asked to do so. But if a bass player ( or any musician for that matter) is responding to adds to play in a band that’s a different situation imho. Now perhaps the guy is amazing and if so should be able to demonstrate in some fashion i.e. have a recording of his playing, references, etc. maybe he is going through a rough spot, we all have. But if the guy is serious about wanting to play in a band he should have the basic equipment to do so or be in the process of being able to do so. I’ve played with great guys who had great equipment and great guys who had mediocre equipment and if the situation worked for everyone involved it was worth the compromise. They did however, have their own equipment. Gear doesn’t make a great player but gear allows the great player to do what he does. I’d meet the guy and have him demonstrate what he can do and then if it’s good, discuss the issue of him getting an amp ASAP. One needs the basic tools to do a job in any profession. He says he has a guitar amp, can he sell it to get a bass amp?
     
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  19. montemerrick

    montemerrick spiritual birthday, April 1 Strat-Talk Supporter

    i ride my broom.
     

  20. Shaolindelt

    Shaolindelt Strat-Talk Member

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    Sounds like you were willing to make some concessions, understand a situation and give him a chance as a musician. I’d say that’s more than enough, but the layers of problems with this one may be more than you want to take on and that’s 100% understandable.

    I’d say his lack of initiative and drive is more indicative of his personality than musical skill, and it doesn’t sound like you want a problem personality regardless of potential music ability. If I was playing in band, I’d rather have someone who was average/above average musically but fit in personality wise with the band more than a brilliant musician we had to babysit.

    It’s be different if the guy had said “Hey, I play bass too just don’t have a bass amp at the moment but we can talk if you like my style. Would love to meet up and see if we click.” And as for transportation, if he’s bringing that up now, red flag. If I didn’t have a car or drive, but was serious about it - I’d make my own arrangements and not mention it until the audition went well.
     
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