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Would you carry your strat in a driver less car

Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by roger@pennyflic, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. slowesthand

    slowesthand Senior Stratmaster

    Oct 23, 2011
    NY
    That is far from proven that they have the potential to be safer than cars operated by humans.
    $150 million dollar planes have pilots, do you really think a $30,000 is going to have the tech to drive itself?
     
  2. shupe13

    shupe13 Senior Stratmaster

    Feb 17, 2010
    Greenfield, IN
    I wouldn’t let my Strat cross a street in front of a driverless car.
     
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  3. ProSonicLive

    ProSonicLive Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    34
    Sep 4, 2016
    Texas
    I wouldn't put my least favorite box wrench in a driverless car. Muchless boxi.
     
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  4. Borgatomic

    Borgatomic Strat-Talker

    303
    Sep 30, 2017
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    Like I said before, the paranoid types and skeptics always seem to say ...

    "You'll never need more than 1MB of memory and 20MB hard drive it's a waste of money."

    "No freaking way, will I ever stick a cellphone up to my face and cook my brain!"

    Here's my favorite from back when I was just a little boy.

    "You'll never see me playing a guitar with springs inside, it even has a cord dangling from it you'll get shocked."

    I'd love to see some of the faces on you all when a driver-less car picks you up in the pouring rain from the airport.

    Hee Hee, you better hope someone isn't trying to hack the system while your going 55.

    driver.jpg
     
  5. Groovey

    Groovey Most Honored Senior Member

    Nov 17, 2016
    NC. USA
    My Strat? Sure. Me? No.
     
  6. newplayeroldguy

    newplayeroldguy in the wind

    May 12, 2015
    north and east
    I avoided a collision with a driverless SUV just yesterday.

    I saw that the person behind the wheel wasn't driving because she was busy with her phone and wasn't even looking out the windshield- so I was ready when she drifted over the centerline and into my lane. Fortunately for all concerned, I was driving the car that we were in, so no collision took place.
     
  7. Ebidis

    Ebidis Providing the world with flat bends since 1985 Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    52
    Nov 14, 2013
    Alabama
    There are no pedestrians, obstacles, traffic lights, or stop and go traffic at 30,000 feet.
     
  8. JustABluesGuy

    JustABluesGuy Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 3, 2016
    Houston, TX
    Just to clarify, that's 30,000 per year.
     
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  9. JustABluesGuy

    JustABluesGuy Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 3, 2016
    Houston, TX
    I can’t wait for autonomous vehicles! Fast commutes, much safer roads, and no more moron drivers, or road raging a$$e$!

    What’s the down side again?
     
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  10. Borgatomic

    Borgatomic Strat-Talker

    303
    Sep 30, 2017
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    I don't know Ebidis, I don't even like climbing ladders over 5 feet.

    I'd rather get in a driver-less car than throw gravity into the mix.

    Maybe SpaceX will get you there.
     
  11. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

    Age:
    53
    Jan 12, 2016
    Lil' Rhody
    The educated (and narcissistic) idiots that come up with this stuff are the same people who cant make a robotic vacuum work properly.

    Yea, driver-less cars are a great idea. :cool:
     
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  12. JustABluesGuy

    JustABluesGuy Senior Stratmaster

    Sep 3, 2016
    Houston, TX
    I’ve been listening to Luddites complain about the future (any change at all, really) since 1957, though I am sure it has been going on much longer than that.

    Kids these days! New music sucks! Mandatory seat belts! Yikes! Muh freedom is under attack!

    Past great! Future really scary! Ugh!
     
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  13. TheDuck

    TheDuck Most Honored Senior Member

    Age:
    53
    Jan 12, 2016
    Lil' Rhody

    Don't confuse a person with common sense with a Luddite.

    The technology isnt nearly where it needs to be for automated individual vehicle transportation. Just because it works in the movies doesnt mean its practical for the real world.

    We're not talking about digital television, or amp modelling, we're talking about a technology that has the potential to kill. In fact, it already has.

    Whats a fair price to move the tech forward? One hundred lives? A thousand?

    Are you willing to offer up a few family members to advance the technology? A parent? Maybe a sibling, or child?

    Yea, thats what I thought.
     
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  14. Vindibona1

    Vindibona1 Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    I don't trust them. Just yesterday I heard a report of the first fatality caused by a DL car. Right now there are so few of them that the statistics don't have enough samples to really know how masses of DL cars will integrate with human drivers. So, what happens when a DL car wants to change lanes and an obstinate human doesn't want to let it in- particularly as it approaches its highway exit? What happens when a human wants to play games with it and make maneuvering difficult for it intentionally {what, you don't think that's gonna happen?}? When a DL car kills or injures a human, who gets sued? And where are the DL cars going to be most in demand? In areas that are the most congested with the most amount of human frustration. I don't think they're going to be all that in demand in areas that are easy to drive in because driving is fun when you're not stuck in traffic.

    If we look at "progress", devices and cultural transformation of the last 50 years, we have to ask ourselves, are our lives really better because of them? This old codger says hell no. Just because we can, doesn't mean we should.

    Just a few years ago we had that...
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    Now we have this...
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    Modern Technology... Who is the master and who is the slave?
     
  15. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh needs you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too. Strat-Talk Supporter

    Jan 10, 2014
    Initech, Inc.
    Oh, how I long for those days. Driving in the Phoenix area was near stress-free compared to driving here in SoCal.
     
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  16. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    38
    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    Many commercial planes won't allow maneuvres like that, there are limits to how much rudder the pilot is allowed to give it and there are limits to max bank angle, max pitch etc. The software safety and software testing is rigorous and there's full traceability. A lot of effort has been put into the design of redundant systems, fail safes and graceful degradation of systems if they fail anyway.
     
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  17. thomquietwolf

    thomquietwolf Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

    Age:
    77
    Dec 2, 2010
    Peardale CA
    Yeh...
    The move from Grass Valley to Scottsdale was a bit of a shock..
    Just like in Socal...
    Scottsdale ....
    Everything is 100 miles away
    And
    Daily business requires 89mph or zero
    But in GV
    Everything is 7 miles a way
    They still drive 89mph
    But
    Traffic jams are called 24" snow
     
  18. Borgatomic

    Borgatomic Strat-Talker

    303
    Sep 30, 2017
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    Back to horses or flying cars?

    both.jpg
     
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  19. Cerb

    Cerb Senior Stratmaster

    Age:
    38
    Jan 22, 2016
    Sweden
    I'd totally rock in a DeLorean, flying or not.
     
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  20. 2GoneDE

    2GoneDE Strat-Talk Member

    Age:
    45
    66
    Mar 8, 2017
    Las Vegas
    This is how it's done!