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  1. cappei

    cappei Strat-O-Master

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    Do you need formal guitar and academy studies to go pro?, say livin' out of music or something?

    I would love to professionalize myself as a musician, and do bigger and better things.

    I know it may seem obvious, but if you don't go "to school" what would be a smart way to start studying guitar and music? it seems so much, I don't know where to start.

    any advice?
     
  2. elduderinoTF

    elduderinoTF Strat-O-Master

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    Pretty sure lots of "Pros" had no formal education in music. Reckon nowadays you gotta be unique and be good at it.
     
  3. Thrup'ny Bit

    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Get out there and play. If you make enough money to live on, then you're a pro.
     
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    Stormy Monday Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    What's your definition of "pro"?
     
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    nederemer Senior Stratmaster

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    If you study you'll be able to apply the concepts which will allow you to play better, faster. If you don't you're pretty much left up to trying to figure it out for yourself. Why would you do that - when someone else already did the work for you.
     
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    heltershelton BANNED Strat-Talk Supporter

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    you can be the best guitar player in the world, and if you don't know the right people, youll go nowhere. so just like anything else, its all about who you know.
     
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  7. Alan Crossley

    Alan Crossley Senior Stratmaster

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    You can confirm yourself as a professional musician now, but if you don’t make any, or adequate money, you’re still a professional, but not necessarily a financially solvent professional.:eek:
     
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    Seamus OReally Strat-O-Master Silver Member

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    Do you want to be a pro guitar player, or a pro composer? If the former, just learn all the chords and scales and practice like crazy. If the latter, then study at music school.
     
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    thomquietwolf Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I think it's called heart...
    And
    A good manager...


    Went to see this woman up town here...
    Technically perfect
    Great to look at
    Couldn't deal with her set list(Vegas rich people music)
     
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    Some business background is good along with some of the legal end of things too
     
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    Groovey Most Honored Senior Member

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    CigBurn Most Honored Senior Member Strat-Talk Supporter

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    I'm doing it the old fashioned way..

    sleeping my way to the top.jpg
     
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    circles Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Sometimes you can go all the way to super stardom and only know three chords, but the more you know, the broader your palette. I can't imagine being a pro and not have some sort of schooling along the way though.
     
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    vid1900 Senior Stratmaster

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    Learn your scales, so you "get" how the math of the guitar works.

    But honestly, many "pro" guitarists are not very good players.

    Often a session guitarist plays on the record, then the "pro" learns the solo so it can be played live.
     
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    T Guitar Floyd Senior Stratmaster

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    Hey! There's the start of a new song! :thumb:
     
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    apm1991 Senior Stratmaster

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    I don't think so...

    I was lucky enough to have a neighbor who went to Musical Institute in California for bass, he had been playing bass over 30 years... We became friends, he taught me how to play guitar and taught me theory as well.. everyday after work I'd go to his apartment, drink beers and play.... fast forward a few years... we started a band about one year ago playing all originals, we've played about 40 shows already.. sometimes we get paid, sometimes we don't get more than $50 or free food and drinks... he's actually our lead guitarist now... I don't know if we are "pros", we did play Friday, Saturday and have another show tonight though.... The first song I ever wrote is only 3 chords, here it is if you want to check it out:

     
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    circles Dr. Stratster Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Sometimes you need only one chord. :thumb:

     
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    First we need to define "living"...I assume enough money to live off and not work a day gig.

    Being a pro means either gigging, writing, or recording. Either way you need to network with people to get a product out there.

    One can learn composition from a private teacher too.

    Being able to sing, play the part, and look good onstage are the "pro" requirements for most pop and rock guitar gigs. Often vocal ability, even backups, is a telling point.

    Even some dance ability helps.

    There are lots of types of gigs out there, and many ways to learn how to go about landing and keeping good gigs.
     
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    knh555 Senior Stratmaster

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    I would think if you want to "easily" be able to get work vs. "taking your band to the top", you'd need to be well-versed in theory and the language of music. This is the kind of stuff that @fezz parka and @davidKOS often discuss. Being a good player isn't enough. Then having the repertoire to be able to move in the circles you want and get work comes in to play.

    I don't know that you have to be formally trained to get there, but I've gotta think it can help you get there much more quickly while building out relationships in the music scene that you want to crack into.
     
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    ukoldgit Senior Stratmaster

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    That is more real than a lot of folks would like to admit!
     
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