thanks Rogue, I think that's one of the best I've seen and most of all I like the fact that you can't see the hangar, which is one of the things I like about my yarn method and don't like about the bulky hangars. The yarn method is low budget and works good, and I saw a GC doing the same things using leather strips some years back - then they stopped. Probably because of the perceived stress on the peg, but I think it can take it and have no probs yet on my guitars. If I replace them, it will be with the woodies though, so thank you for that. LMAO at the guitar on the ceiling! Looks good, but that one isn't going to get played very much!