“Paragraphs” please?

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  1. Lone Woof

    Lone Woof Senior Stratmaster

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    Ok, got it. Hey, since you're Brit by birth, what's your take on the Oxford comma? I'm guessing you use it, as do I, but the evolutionists have been trying to tell us it's not necessary.
     
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    Lost me on "Lorem"
     
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    Two students were trying to compose a sentence in past perfect (pluperfect) tense. The first student submitted the sentence "I had a baseball." The second student submitted "I had had a baseball."

    Quickly, the teacher marked the first one wrong. The first student, in a sentence where the second student had had "had had," had had "had." "Had had" had had her preference.
     
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    longboard blues Senior Stratmaster

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    I do use it, yes.
     
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    Nadnitram Most Honored Senior Member

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    As I understand it, it was the AP Style Guide (the journalism style guide) that recommended eliminating the Oxford comma only when it did not change the clarity of meaning in the sentence. That happened before online editions were common, back when the NY Times was printing 1.2 million copies per day. Newspapers made decisions, including Typeface choices, based on maximizing readability using as little ink as possible. The elimination of the Oxford comma seems to have been in that vein.

    On the other hand, MLA, Chicago style, and the other academic style guides still recommend using the Oxford comma.
     
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  6. ZlurkCorzDog

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    Sorry, but I'm from Zeta Reticuli. Wouldyoumindhavingsomeonereinterpretthat?
     
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    Wow, you're from Zeta Reticuli? Do you know Bob?
     
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    What about Bob?

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  9. Gonflyn

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    “Paragraphs” please?

    Yes, thank you, and while we're at it for gods sake could people please know the difference between your and you're, they're, there and their, etc, etc.
    Personal pet peeve of the day.
     
  10. AxemanVR

    AxemanVR I appreciate, therefore I am... Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Then there’s “to” and “too” (not to mention “two”).

    “I bought to guitars today, then decided to get to picks and to sets of strings to”...

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    But one that kind of irks me is: “Bill shook his head ‘yes’ when asked if he agreed...”

    Don’t you “shake” your head ‘no’ and “nod” if you mean ‘yes’? ...or do you shake your head either way? - but, then, when would you nod?...


     
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  11. Nadnitram

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    Why do we say "not to mention," and then immediately mention whatever it was we said we weren't going to mention?

    And it should go without saying that
     
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    I do it because it sounds funny...

    ...sort of like saying "Don't even think about it" to a kid, when you know damn well they're going to think about it!

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    joe_cpwe Senior Stratmaster

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    Poor grammar bugs me when it's my kids, but...

    This is an international forum. We are dealing with language barriers, and a host of socioeconomic factors.

    The vast majority of posters here are adults, and if I can understand the intent, that's good enough for me.

    This is a music forum. Other than disagreements on MIM vs US, rosewood vs maple, Its wrong to judge others grammar. We've got enough of judgements based off of superficial impressions going on in the world right now. We dont need it here.
     
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    So, we've gone 5 pages and no mention of the current trend of starting a sentence with "so". So, is this conjunction abuse or is this acceptable to you?
     
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  16. AxemanVR

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    Guilty as charged - I do it all the time!

    It's a common "setting off a conversation" ploy, one that I feel is used with such frequency that it might as well be part of the acceptable lexicon... along with the word "like"... Like, Y'know...






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    No rule exists in English (American English, at least) that prohibits starting a sentence with a coordinating conjunction. Apparently, no such rule has ever existed. According to the Chicago Manual of style:

    There is a widespread belief—one with no historical or grammatical foundation—that it is an error to begin a sentence with a conjunction such as and, but or so. In fact, a substantial percentage (often as many as 10 percent) of the sentences in first-rate writing begin with conjunctions. It has been so for centuries, and even the most conservative grammarians have followed this practice.

    (from https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/can-i-start-a-sentence-with-a-conjunction)
     
  18. AxemanVR

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    Yeah, but what about "like"?...



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    "Like" has many uses. Some express meaning, and some are just filler, y'know? Unless you are submitting a formal paper, I think you'll be okay. (Or is it OK?)
     
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    So, as long as I'm not, like, writing, like, a totally tubular formal paper, gag me, then, omg! it's, like, ok?


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