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1968 stratocaster, not Pre CBS era...

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by picapoyo, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. picapoyo

    picapoyo Strat-Talker

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    Hi, I posted a thread on refinished Stratocaster 1968
    which is for sale last week in Stratocaster Disccusion Forum.
    But people around there aren't interested that much
    as they aren't vintage enthusiasts.
    So can I quote the discussion here again to hear more thoughts from you guys
    as experts?

    Thanks in advnce

    picapoyo
     
  2. Bazz Jass

    Bazz Jass Chairman of the Fingerboard Strat-Talk Supporter

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    Go for it....
     
  3. picapoyo

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    Thank you Chairman Bazz

    As I could confirm the painted area in the neck pocket,
    this means the guitar has been refinished at some point of its life.

    Over all condition of this guitar is "C".
    The neck plate with serial number
    range of stratocaster in 1968 should be 210000 to 250000.
    The number on this guitar is 181948.
    It's for the year 1966.
    it means the neck plate isn't year correct.
    Possibly previous owner took the neck plate from other Fender of 1966and put it on this guitar for any reason.

    The pickup for stratocaster from
    1968 should be gray bobbin with code number by
    yellow stamp or hand writing.
    There is pencil handwriting on but can't read.

    The metal shield under the pickguard
    should cover the area of control knob
    area only. not the entire pickguard.

    Some screws on the pickguard, PU and saddles are not
    original.some are missing.

    One tone control knob is missing and pot for middle
    pickup is replaced with unknown one and wiring is modified.

    No original hard case.

    you can see pics here
    https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/stratocaster-1968-original-olympic-white-finish.517137/



    I am not buying this one unless the owner drop the price under USD2000...
    Last week the owner asked USD8000...

    After negotiation with him the price now is USD4500. But it's still too much for me if some one might be interested.
     
  4. Adam Wolfaardt

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    The full shield stopped in 68 so in my opinion it's perfectly normal. If it were a 69 it would be wrong
     
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    Mipstoo Senior Stratmaster

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    Hi Taka-san, ;)

    Coincidence that I just had an original '67 passing through here.
    I'll show you some pictures.

    45942170_2248851942102904_7420370647466901504_n.jpg

    The guitar you saw is not really a good deal at the price requested.

    Yes, they used the paint stick during these years as well...
    If it has a fully painted pocket, it is indeed a refin.

    66687558_2332129003705846_6735616765855793152_n.png

    There can be a big discrepancy, 2 years is not usual but I've seen it before on a one owner guitar where everything was bone stock...

    No, you can find the black bottom ones up until late 60s and often with penciled date, hardly readable.
    Also the full shield is normal up till end of '68.

    This set is from the same 100% original '67.
    You can see the full shield as well.

    46014098_190397878564221_7998936401896800256_n.jpg
     
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    Thanks, guys! I will try if the price goes down to my budget range...
     
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    I saw the pics you posted in the previous form, if l had a shot to buy that strat l would (for right price) it looked killer
     
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    I believe the details on this page are from the Fender dating project:

    https://www.guitarrepairbench.com/guitar-dating/fender-serial-number/

    If you scroll down the page, you'll see the lows and highs for each year, as well as the generally accepted range. Quite a variance!

    Under $2000 is optimistic - so is $8000 :)

    It's pretty dirty, I have to agree, but it might clean up a bit better with some hours and light cutting compound.

    If it plays well, feels great, sounds Hendrix....$3000 would be a good deal.
     
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    I love the dirt... it’s been played to near death so you know it’s a gem.....9 times outta 10
     
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    I mean do you want to collect it or play it? If you want to collect it you could find a cleaner example but if you want to play it l bet it’s a player
     
  11. Will Lefeurve

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    Sorry.. it may well be a 68.. but it looked like a fake relic to me.. just a bit 'too' dirty.. like.. intentional dirt..
     
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    Man, for that kind of money and patience you can maybe get a good deal on a players grade or refin 65...
     
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    I’d have to disagree .... ld say there are plenty of examples even online showing similar wear but you never know until it’s in your hands so good to be cautious for sure
     
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    But lm no expert to be clear just have some experience sure there’s others with way more
     
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    Thank you guys!! I played this one last week and examined in person. I believe the dirt is real.Honestly I'm collecting and playing, but I'm collecting player grade ones. I am not buying this one any more due to my budget, but the owner still looks for a potential buyer because this one has been on the wall for 3 years. I must confess the guitar is in Yangon, Myanmar, so I am.
     
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    The guitar was sold in Thailand for 7000usd. My last offer was 2000 usd
     
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