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Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Silverman, Nov 22, 2020.
" But this one goes to eleven..."
Do you own a tube amp?
Obsolete you say?
Yes I do. As I have a couple of 6 points Strats. Actually I play tube amps and obsolete things just for fun. But I also have Floyd Rose equipped guitar, PRS and digital amps. They are a lot more reliable and they don't give you head scratching.
I have no preference. They both are easy to set up right, and they both work as long as you don’t think you are going to dive bomb with it. I agree with others that a 6-point looks more correct.
Obsolete is perhaps an overly harsh word because there is an implied perception the object is no longer useful or no longer functions. Outdated is probably a better descriptor. In the automotive world they might use a term like first gen or maybe non-current. I think calling the use of the 6 screw style stupid might also be a little over the top as well but it does at least point in the right direction if a bit extremely so. The contemporary use of the 6 screw is definitely based more on love for tradition than on pure function. It's an emotional decision. There is no question the 2 point is a smoother working design and there is no compelling evidence of any tonal difference. Saddles, maybe. Fulcrum, no.
That's gorgeous. Robert cray Strat?
Love the colour. Like a lighter Burgundy Mist.
Vintage for me because it looks right. As lots of folk have said, if it's set up right it works just as well.
The word obsolete implies it's not fit for purpose, which is clearly not the case. To my mind it's just reinventing the wheel.
Oh boy, let the games begin. Granted I do have surfer's ear in the left, but after decking my six point back absolutely flat, I heard no difference at all vs raised up on the fulcrum of the bridge plate. So I think a fair comparison would be decking a two all the way down snug on the wood vs floating which to me sure makes a strat sound more twangy and tele-ish. The fulcrum on a six is definitely is a lot of straight to the alder contact and restriction of movement vs just the two tapered notches up against the V cutouts on the posts on a floating bridge.
I don't see it so much as evolution as I do Fender trading off the ability to pull sharp with losing the more tele-ish sound of six points.
i prefer the 6 screw version. with the 2 screw version you are reliant on two points. what happens if one or both of those points become loose and the tremolo unit becomes unusable, i would prefer to have 6 screws to ensure redundancy. to be honest im not sure why they changed over to a 2 screw version. i for one wont ever buy one.
how did you come to the conclusion that its obselete? very antagonistic, i shall not rise to the temperature of my blood right now..
Because he's sad and moody? He does like to whip up a storm whenever he gets the chance.
It's a 1954 project? How do you call it? Actually there are a lot of modern evolutions of that design to solve all the problems coming from that old one. Why being stuck with that first one?
It's worrying that it's so easy to whip up a storm just looking things for what they are and not stucking on old romantic senseless feelings. Locking tuners are better? Why don't use them? Screw bushing ones are better? Why stucking with press on bushings? Locking bridges and notched pivots are better?... well you've got it.
What are the problems? I don't get any on mine, and I use them.
But none of the things there are "better", they're just different. Most of the problems come from the user, not the engineering.
Ok, I give up. Have fun.
Sorry not to bend to your superior enlightenment.
Oh, I see... you have a PRS. that’s all I needed to know.
got both and really can't tell the difference!