2011 Am Std Neck Finish

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  1. Dougeryb

    Dougeryb Strat-O-Master

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    Quick question on neck finish.

    Would anyone know if 2011 American Standard rosewood Strat necks came in both gloss poly and satin finishes? I have a gloss neck, and just go over it with 0000 steel wool, but was just curious if the 2011 had both satin and gloss?

    Not looking to change necks or anything, just wanting to know.

    TIA!
     
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    Satin on the back of the neck.
     
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    AFAIK all were satin but the best guy to answer this is @John C
     
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    My neck is definitely authentic and serial comes up as Am Std 2008-2012.
     
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    Thats strange. I didn't think any Am Stds had gloss back necks?? You have to go back to the early '80s to find those.
     
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    Thats the thing. When I researched 2010 and 2011 American Std, everything I could find came up satin finished (just like you said). When I looked it up under its serial no., It just comes up as 08 to 12 Am Std Strat.

    If it were an FSR, would it come up as such when looking up the serial?
     
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    When I have some time, I'll pull the neck and post some photos of the neck heel and pocket.

    Again, Im not concerned in the least bit about quality or authenticity, as I love the neck, just quite curious about its history.
     
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    Yes pics would be helpful. Looking forward to seeing them.
     
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    So, I made time right now! Lol!

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    Better pic of the back of neck:



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    They were satin from the factory - it looks like someone glossed that one up with use; the heel part looks like the correct satin finish. The factory spec was glossy headstock, everything else satin for the rosewood board models; the maple board models had a gloss fingerboard and headstock.
     
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    Thanks John. Your answer is sound.
     
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    @John C , just one more thing: that round hole in the neck pocket, what’s with that?

    Some American Standards have it, some don’t.
     
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    I've given up on that one lol!

    Some say the holes are identifiers, others say its a hole to align bodies for CNC machines. I, for one, am starting to believe they are somehow related to crop circles.
     
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    It’s funny because many Am STDs of the same years have it and many don’t.
     
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    Yeah.. and "why in the neck pocket?", is my question. Popular train of thought is; you want maximum wood/wood contact in that specific area. Find it curious that Fender would leave a blank hole at that crucial point.

    Ive read one theory for the holes is for "weight relief" but I think that theory is a crock.
     
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    The best you can say is the holes are part of the manufacturing process.
    If you pull the pg there will be another one like this

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    Yes, they were locating holes for the CNC machines Fender that Fender had at that point in time. In recent years it appears they have gotten new CNC machines for the Corona factory and the USA models no longer have the locating holes. I've noticed that MIM Fenders still have the holes in the neck pocket; for a while the MIMs had multiple holes in the under the pickguard area but now that the USA bodies don't have any locating holes the MIMs now have only 1 hole - like the older USA body that @Skinny Nitro posted.
     
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    I believe you John. Thats what I always thought until some respected folks here adamantly said they are NOT for CNC alignment, just body identifiers. But, to me, It doesnt make any sense to drill into a body just for identification.
     
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    I think that they drilled extra holes in the MIMs was for identification purposes - really only 1 hole would have been needed for CNC alignment - but since the USA bodies had 1 hole the MIM bodies would have about 3 holes, the extra holes being smaller than the alignment hole.