60s Strat Neck Shapes

xforce

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Jun 25, 2015
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What are the standard neck shapes for Fenders different earls 60s Strats?

I know that the American Vintage 59' has a D Shaped Neck
and that rory gallaghers strat has what Fender calls an early 60s Shape


but im not sure about the difference between early 60s, mid 60s and 65s C
is 65s C a different name for a mid 60s C or are these different shapes?

In fenders Custom Shop quote sheet there is only
65 C and
Mid 60s Oval C to select



If so, what year strat would have which one?
can you help me complete the list?

so this would be a early 60s
Early60sOvalC.jpg


and this a 65
65StratC.jpg



59' = D Shape
60 = early 60s C
61 = early 60s C
62 = early 60s C
63 = Mid 60s Oval C ?
64 = Mid 60s Oval C ?
65 = 65 C
 

xforce

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Jun 25, 2015
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i want to find out the different neck shape names for early 60s to 65s strat necks
and which strat would have what type of neck when you order it from the custom shop t today

if I order a 62, what neck will i Get?
what if i order a 64?
 

KCStratman

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Apr 2, 2015
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Kansas City
Best to call Fender and ask them, they change their profiles and what they call them from time to time. Post back here and let us know exactly what they say.
 

xforce

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Jun 25, 2015
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when you order a custom shop strat

you can select " base model neck shape "
for each year strat
i want to know which one you'll get
im sure some people on this forum know
 

Guy Named Sue

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As the guitars I've tried from that time period to me there is pattern that is also found on Gibson. That's to my experience and I don't know exactly the reason for these changes

Take for example ES 335 as it starts out on 59-60 the neck shape is quite chunky and as it progresses around 61-62 it gets thinner C shape and around 64-65 it gets back to chunky

Clapton has one of those late 64,chunky necked

Fender has a very similar progression. 1959 the strats are D shape chunky, but a bit slimmer than the early 55 bat shapes

That progresses to around 62-63 and get suddenly thinner, around 65-66 the shape get back to chunky D shape

The only thing is that at late 60's around 68-69 the shape is more of a chunky shape but deep U shape.

That's my experience, it certainly not the rule! I'm yet to discover a 60's strat with asymmetrical shape. Haven't found one yet in real life.

Where are you planning to order from? I don't you can label a year to an exact shape, but you can get an Idea of the shape and the difference will be in the depth.

You can have V shape both in light shallow shape or big fat shape. It depends on your preference and liking of course

The numbers here refer to the neck depth, as it starts out on 1th fret and the shape at 12th fret.
 

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KCStratman

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Apr 2, 2015
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Kansas City
xforce, that's just it, the Fender standard profiles are just guides but there are variances in shape from year to year and among individual necks of the same year/profile style. You need to figure out the basic category you want, say 10/56 Deep V, and then tell the custom shop softer V, shallower depth, etc. The early 60's styles you are referring to have a great deal of variance from year to year and individual neck to individual neck. So, Fender is offering the basic choice of Early 60's Oval C or 65 C, then you can specify deeper, shallower, etc. on a custom order. Again, it is best to actually call Fender and get the details, not to rely just on the information published on their website, which is often incomplete or perfunctory. Seriously, let us know what they say as this is a topic of interest to many.
 

xforce

New Member!
Jun 25, 2015
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abc
As the guitars I've tried from that time period to me there is pattern that is also found on Gibson. That's to my experience and I don't know exactly the reason for these changes

Take for example ES 335 as it starts out on 59-60 the neck shape is quite chunky and as it progresses around 61-62 it gets thinner C shape and around 64-65 it gets back to chunky

Clapton has one of those late 64,chunky necked

Fender has a very similar progression. 1959 the strats are D shape chunky, but a bit slimmer than the early 55 bat shapes

That progresses to around 62-63 and get suddenly thinner, around 65-66 the shape get back to chunky D shape

The only thing is that at late 60's around 68-69 the shape is more of a chunky shape but deep U shape.

That's my experience, it certainly not the rule! I'm yet to discover a 60's strat with asymmetrical shape. Haven't found one yet in real life.

Where are you planning to order from? I don't you can label a year to an exact shape, but you can get an Idea of the shape and the difference will be in the depth.

You can have V shape both in light shallow shape or big fat shape. It depends on your preference and liking of course

The numbers here refer to the neck depth, as it starts out on 1th fret and the shape at 12th fret.

but is there a difference between
Early 60s C
and
Mid 60s Oval C

or is Mid 60s Oval C just another name for
65' C ?
 

KCStratman

Senior Stratmaster
Apr 2, 2015
1,494
Kansas City
Yes.
No.

Seriously, here is the phone number
1-844-202-0924 (US Toll Free)
1-480-596-7195 (International)

Please let us know what the factory says regarding the exact differences in those early to mid 60's neck profiles.
 

Guy Named Sue

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Feb 11, 2015
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Of course, you can have one neck that is C shape from first to 12th fret while another neck from same year has a C shape beginning and as it progresses it get more shoulder an at 12th more a D shape.

You have dig in deep and find the preferences to your liking first, you like a fat neck or shallow, or both? You can have a neck that starts shallow and as it progresses it gets fatter.

So find out what you find comfortable in a neck an start from there if you're custom ordering.
 

echoes71

Senior Stratmaster
Jul 15, 2013
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USA
I can help you as much as you can get from Fender, these apply to CS orders, 1st and 12th are thickness at those points, at their originals they would be 1 5/8 nut with a 7.25 radius:


60 Style Oval "C": 1st:0.790, 12th:0.930
65 Strat "C": 1st: 0.820, 12th: 0.974
66 Strat Oval "C": 1st: 0.840, 12th: 0.960
1969 "U": 1st: 0.850, 12th: 0.910

That's all they list for 60's strat necks on their sheet.
 


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