70s Pickup Stamps

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  1. Strat_n00b

    Strat_n00b Strat-Talk Member

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    Hi everyone,
    I’ve come across some supposedly mid to late 70s pickups online, whose stamps seem off to me. According to the usual sites, like
    http://www.guitarhq.com/fender.html#serial
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    https://www.strat-central.com/70sstrats/
    the last two digits should tell you the year the pickups were made (or, if it’s a four-digit stamp, the last digit). However, some stamps seem to begin with the date stamp (I’ve pulled these two pics from eBay, but there are definitely more of these out there). Apart from the order of the stamps, these seem to be originals, and if they are, surely someone on here must have come across these stamps before. So, has anyone?
    Thanks guys!
     

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  2. Kyri

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    Not sure, but here are a couple of genuine ones, maybe some comparison of bobbin material etc might help or the wire colour. In case it helps here is a pic.
    70s pupsflsh.JPG
     
  3. Strat_n00b

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    Thanks for the pic @Kyri, helps a lot. Indeed, everything else (wire colour, bobbin colour & material, lead wires, pole pieces) looks exactly like yours - just the order of the date stamp is different.
     
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    These are images of my 1979 Anniversary Strat.

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    Thanks, awesome! All of yours seem to follow a “xxxx79” pattern, so they confirm the ‘traditional’ template. Makes me wonder whether the ones with a “79xxxx” stamp are originals or fake (do people fake these things?). On a side note, great to see 70s Strats with their original pickups, seems like a lot of people switched theirs at some point.
     
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    Cerb Anti conformist reformist

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    And here are mine. Well, one of them.

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    The "96" is consistent with the earliest 'X1' bridge pickups frpm 1979.
    Measure resistance to be certain.
     
  8. Kyri

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    Yes, you are right, slightly hotter pup (9600 windings?) measures around 7.5K. An excellent bridge pup, I have a JV strat with 3 of them in it. Most had yellow wire to differentiate but this particular one might be one of the early ones before they started using the yellow wire. The all have the "96" written on the bobbin and all the ones I have seen have the same writing.
    Cheers!
     
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    Thanks for all the info guys, didn’t know about the X1s, they sound great!

    But there’s still no sign of anyone owning legitimate/verified 70s pickups with a serial number that starts with a year (e.g. 79xxxx), right?
     
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    Update: I’ve been able to find a two good examples where these pickups come with a mint Strat.

    1. Mike Mike’s Guitar Store in Seattle sold a 100% original ‘78 with (what looks like) both types of stamps:
    https://www.mmguitarbar.com/listing...sunburst-100-original-near-mint-wohc/13901322

    Whereas the neck PU’s stamp is clearly a “xx1878”, the middle PU seems to read “78xx17”. It’s as if the “78” was a stamp that was applied independently of the other 4 digits (also both “78”s seem to be smudged the same way = Same stamp?).

    2. Fretted Americana also sold a ‘78 Strat that was apparently “under the bed for 35 years” aka 100% original: https://www.frettedamericana.com/product/1978-fender-stratocaster

    While they don’t provide pics, the description says: “Two of the pickups are stamped in black on the underside "170778" and the third one is stamped "780816".” So again, a late 70s Strat straight from the factory has both types of stamps.

    Of course, this isn’t conclusive, but there seem to be a number of examples that are 100% genuine.
     
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    Thanks so much, yes, that was actually one of the pages I started out with. Have now been in touch with the site's manager to find a conclusive answer (our consensus, for now, is that these pickups seem genuine)!
     
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    From my late ‘74 hardtail, flat pole pickup Strat. Bridge pickup ends with 74, middle begins with 75, but last digit is unreadable. Unfortunately, I bought it in 1982 after previous owner had swapped neck pickup with a Dimarzio, painted body cavity with shielding paint and added Shaller “S” tuners.
     

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