8’s and tuners and springs!

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  1. rossmon

    rossmon Strat-Talk Member

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    First, i’m a miserable guitarist! Second, with old age and drumming all my life, my ears are gone and hearing aids a must. I use apps like guitar tuna and solid state tuners from Fender and others for especially the Low E string.
    After installing the 8’s which I love, none of my tuners work, not the apps or the little digital plastic box tuners. they all think the E string is the A string! What can I do?
    Next, my Strat came with 3 springs and a tremolo bar that I never use. I got tired of the dance whenever replacing strings. I would tighten them up and the bridge would rock up changing everything! So I ordered a package of springs from Fender and this time after the dance started, I added 2 more springs. Wow, problem solved, tuning is stable overnight. As for tuning issue, my workaround is to get as close to a low E tone as I can, then tune all other strings manually by amplified ear! All comments appreciated
     
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    Bob the builder Most Honored Senior Member

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    Lower the pitch of the E string I guess.
     
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    CB91710 No GAS shortage here Double Platinum Supporting Member

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    Ya, if your tuner thinks the E is the A, then it is probably tuned close to G or higher.
     
  4. rossmon

    rossmon Strat-Talk Member

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    Thanks guys!
    yup thats what i tried but then it all sounded like ****. So I kept experimenting, just copying as best i can with my ear the tone that the digital tuner puts out. I tried the tuner built in to my small Vox modeling amp which uses red and green leds to guide you to the sweet spot and it is the same issue.
    I better call Billy Gibbons for some help but i’m afraid he just uses his ear!
    I will say this, the strings sound great and it is far easier practicing with my untalented fingers!
    Next month, I am having a small carpal tunnel release surgery on my right hand which will help a lot. My finger tips tend to numb up from a life of hard work… Hey, that could be a song
     
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    GitGeek Livin' After Midnight Gold Supporting Member

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    When you say "little digital plastic box tuners" are you referring to clip-on tuners that you clip on to the headstock?

    If so, try experimenting with placement. Clip it on the other side of the headstock, or try clipping it to the top strap button.

    Yes the strap button seems like an odd place, but it works to get the good vibrations.
     
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    Batteries in the tuners?
     
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    Impulsive guppy Strat-O-Master Silver Member

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    I get the tuner problem all the time. Don’t think it is out of the ordinary.
    Seems to get confused on high E, sometimes the B string too.

    I just go to the next string, and when I come back it is usually better.

    this is with a Snark and TU2
     
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    rossmon Strat-Talk Member

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    7F135774-834E-49E3-BCA1-76A5A21911B0.jpeg No not a clip on i have one sold by Fender an AT-3 guitar/bass tuner and
    I just found my older one made by Seiko, an ST-727 and it works! So i guess that solves the problem for now. Unfortunately, guitar tuna is real handy since its an app on my iphone. Maybe i’ll contact them about it. Thanks for all the help!
     
  9. Ozric

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    I use 8s on a Jazzmaster with humbuckers and I love the added sponginess that 8s bring, bending galore! I also use a StroboStomp, best tuner ever!! never had any issues, maybe you want to check your intonation? not sure, good luck
     
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    Unstable tuning is just one reason that I left 8"s long ago. If the string tension is what bothers you, consider 9's or 9.5's and tune down a litte. I don't know if a new guitar is in your plans, but something with the shorter Gibson scale could also help your situation.
     
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    rossmon Strat-Talk Member

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    How does the shorter scale help? I’m pretty ignorant on music theory among my other faults!
     
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    Shorter scale reduces tension.
    9s on a Strat feel like 10s on a Gibson... or almost, probably closer to 9.5s.

    A Strat tuned down 1/2 step is exactly the same tension as a Brian May Red Special (24"), the Gibson is halfway in between.
     
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    Impulsive guppy Strat-O-Master Silver Member

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    I don’t think the OP was having tuning stability problems.
     
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    You should check out Raw Vintage tremolo springs, their fantastic! Their the closest you will get to how tremolo springs were made in the golden years of the Stratocaster. They do cost more but are well worth it.
     
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    I don't understand why anyone is playing 8's on a Strat. Its not like 9's carve up one's fingertips.

    And spare me the Billy Gibbons references.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    I don't have any trouble with 8s, tuners or springs.

    That doesn't matter in the least.
     
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    Nobody under the age of 10 "needs" to play 8s.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    Nobody "needs" to play anything. Do your own thing and mind your own business.
     
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    This is a forum that I'm a member of. I'm not required to silence my opinion just because it makes you uncomfortable.
     
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    Thrup'ny Bit Grand Master Curmudgeon

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    It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, but people using 8s seems to upset you.
     
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